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Another change of heart
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Wylie Garvin



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PostPost subject: Re: Another change of heart    Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:29 pm Reply to topic Reply with quote
dj wrote:
Adam Hair wrote:
K I Hyams wrote:
dj wrote:
mar wrote:
dj wrote:
All these +10 and +1 posts are pointless - just as it would be for others to respond with -10 or -1. The way to count numbers is not for dozens of posts with +1 or -1 but a poll. Better still would be to post nothing unless one actually has something to say other than a mere "agreed" or its wordy variants such as "count me as well".

+1 means I am annoyed by all these neverending Rybka/ICGA threads. I'm on neither side, i don't care about Rybka and I don't care about ICGA. And I don't care about what others think of me.
If you want to run a poll, do it. If you find my post useless, fine. I feel the same for yours.

Eh? I did not say that I wanted a poll. I suggested that instead of producing puerile posts such as "+1" or "count me in" your might start a poll instead. I also added that it would be better not to write anything at all if "+1" and "count me in" is the limit of your vocabulary and intelligence. Like you I am not on either side. What I cannot abide is somebody - whether on one side or the other or on no side at all - who writes something as inane as +10 or +1.

Just as well that you add that you" don't care about what others think of me."

+6.5
Had I wanted to stand as an individual for reelection as a CTF moderator, my election statement would have been a declaration of intent to ban any poster who simply posted "+1". In fact, during the short time in which I considered the possibility of standing, I prepared and saved the draft below:

“I intend to progressively implement the following sanctions, listed in increasing order of severity, against members who continually respond to the posts of other members with the comment “+1”:
a circumcision without anaesthetic and with a blunt knife.
b brain extraction through the nostrils with a wire hook.
c eternal banishment to the Rybka forum, to dwell in the midst of such as “Banned for Cheating”.


If I may ask, what bothers you about such responses?

If you have to ask the question then you would not understand the answer.


What bothers me far more than people who post "+1" are people who quote large piles of text by someone else, including several layers of nested quotes tracing back the entire history of the conversation.

I'd much rather see people edit the quoted stuff so it contains JUST the point they are responding to (and maybe also what that person was responding to... but not 6 levels of responses going back to the very beginning of the thread, please!)

For example, compare the giant quoted wad above to this:

dj wrote:
Adam Hair wrote:
If I may ask, what bothers you about such responses?

If you have to ask the question then you would not understand the answer.


Quoting only the important part (the part you are responding to) takes a tiny bit more effort, but saves enormous vertical space for flat mode readers, and keeps the threads from becoming 20+ pages long with only 2-3 posts per page, each 95% filled by a giant block of quoted text. This is especially helpful for readers with small screens (phones etc.)

[Idea: Maybe someone could hack the forum software so it automatically replaced the contents of any [quote] block more than 3 levels deep with "..." ?]
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Another change of heart Ed Schroder Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:12 am
      Re: Another change of heart Julien MARCEL Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:18 am
            Re: Another change of heart Tom Giampietro Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:27 pm
                  Re: Another change of heart Martin Sedlak Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:34 pm
                        Re: Another change of heart Derek Jones Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:51 pm
                              Re: Another change of heart Guenther Simon Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:59 pm
                                    Re: Another change of heart Matthias Gemuh Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:31 pm
                                          Re: Another change of heart Adam Hair Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:46 pm
                                                Re: Another change of heart Guenther Simon Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:35 pm
                              Re: Another change of heart Martin Sedlak Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:06 pm
                                    Re: Another change of heart Derek Jones Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:55 pm
                                          Re: Another change of heart Martin Sedlak Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:58 pm
                                          Re: Another change of heart K I Hyams Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:04 pm
                                                Re: Another change of heart Adam Hair Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:07 pm
                                                      Re: Another change of heart Derek Jones Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:23 pm
                                                            Re: Another change of heart Adam Hair Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:47 pm
                                                            Re: Another change of heart Wylie Garvin Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:29 pm
                                                                  Re: Another change of heart Robert Houdart Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:31 pm
                                                                        Re: Another change of heart Sam Hamilton Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:06 am
                                                                              Re: Another change of heart Adam Hair Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:00 am
                                                                  Re: Another change of heart Adam Hair Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:42 pm
                                                                  Re: Another change of heart Graham Banks Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:12 pm
                                                      Re: Another change of heart K I Hyams Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:46 pm
                                                            Re: Another change of heart Adam Hair Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:04 pm
                                                Re: Another change of heart Terry McCracken Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:25 am
                                    Re: Another change of heart Andres Valverde Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:50 pm
                              Re: Another change of heart Tom Giampietro Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:53 pm
            Re: Another change of heart Uri Blass Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:06 pm
                  Re: Another change of heart Derek Jones Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:46 pm
                        Re: Another change of heart Patrik Karlsson Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:12 pm
                              Re: Another change of heart Patrik Karlsson Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:40 pm
                              Re: Another change of heart Robert Hyatt Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:08 am
                                    Re: Another change of heart Sam Hamilton Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:07 am
                                          Re: Another change of heart Robert Hyatt Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:26 pm
                  Re: Another change of heart Daniel Shawul Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:20 pm
                        Re: Another change of heart Matthias Gemuh Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:28 pm
            Re: Another change of heart H.G.Muller Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:06 pm
                  Re: Another change of heart Uri Blass Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:21 pm
      Re: Another change of heart Robert Hyatt Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:06 pm
            Re: Another change of heart Ed Schroder Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:01 pm
                  Re: Another change of heart Robert Hyatt Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:37 pm
                        Re: Another change of heart Ed Schroder Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:09 am
                              Re: Another change of heart F. Bluemers Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:54 am
                              Re: Another change of heart Robert Hyatt Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:30 pm
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