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Lucas Braesch



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PostPost subject: Re: Null Move Help    Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:32 am Reply to topic Reply with quote
tmokonen wrote:
elpapa wrote:

Oh dear, I think Tony will explode this time. He didn't make a point of using Arena. He was just explaining what the time settings meant.


Yeah, what he said.... 'twas a copy and paste from an output log, nothing more. Lucas does have a point with using command line tools, though. Haven't tried CLOP yet for myself, but it looks like an interesting concept. Maybe I could use it to try tune material values for variants.

If you use Windows, there's LittleBlitzer. It can play very fast games and in parralel too. The only thing that it doesn't have compared to cutechess-cli is that it's still a GUI, and it's not a fully scriptable command line tool. So you couldn't use it with CLOP for example, but for self testing of playing tournaments at fast time controls, it's certainly a good choice. On a positive side, some people might find it more user friendly than a command line tool.

Anyway, the most important thing is to have the right tool for the job, which ever it is. And the job is to play a lot of games (yes 1000 is generally a good choice although it depends on the elo difference you need to measure, I prefer a more systematic approach with sequential probability ratio test). So with a given CPU time constraint, the most games will be achieved by playing parralel games at fast time controls. When you have to do a trade off between playing lots of games very fast and playing less games slowly (for better quality of the games), it's best to choose the former in (almost?) all situations
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Null Move Help Steve Mulligan Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:09 pm
      Re: Null Move Help Sven Schüle Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:36 pm
      Re: Null Move Help Robert Purves Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:38 pm
      Re: Null Move Help Steve Mulligan Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:19 am
            Re: Null Move Help Lucas Braesch Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:23 am
                  Re: Null Move Help Steve Mulligan Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:06 pm
                        Re: Null Move Help Tony Mokonen Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:01 am
                              Re: Null Move Help Lucas Braesch Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:14 am
                                    Re: Null Move Help Patrik Karlsson Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:06 am
                                          Re: Null Move Help Tony Mokonen Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:59 am
                                                Re: Null Move Help Lucas Braesch Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:32 am
                                                      Re: Null Move Help Tony Mokonen Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:16 am
                                                            Re: Null Move Help Lucas Braesch Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:39 am
                                    Re: Null Move Help H.G.Muller Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:07 pm
                                          Re: Null Move Help Lucas Braesch Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:31 pm
                                                Re: Null Move Help H.G.Muller Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:49 pm
                                                      Re: Null Move Help H.G.Muller Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:48 pm
                                                            Re: Null Move Help Lucas Braesch Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:56 pm
                                                                  Re: Null Move Help H.G.Muller Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:02 pm
                                                            Re: Null Move Help H.G.Muller Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:14 pm
                                                                  Re: Null Move Help H.G.Muller Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:07 pm
                                                                  Re: Null Move Help Evert Glebbeek Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:15 pm
                                                                        Re: Null Move Help H.G.Muller Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:46 am
                                                                              Re: Null Move Help Evert Glebbeek Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:19 pm
                                    Re: Null Move Help Steve Mulligan Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:32 pm
                                          Re: Null Move Help Lucas Braesch Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:51 pm
                                                Re: Null Move Help Steve Mulligan Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:15 pm
                                                      Re: Null Move Help Robert Purves Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:00 pm
                        Re: Null Move Help H.G.Muller Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:03 pm
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