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Lucas Braesch
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 Post subject: Re: C# Performance Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:57 am |
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Actually the most recent version of DoubleCheck is somewhat stronger than v2.3.1. But probably still significantly weaker than CuckooChess. But that doesn't prove a point of Java versus C, does it ? Needless to remind you that all the strong engines (above 3000 CCRL let's say) are written in C or C++, and a good 95% of the total are written in C or C++. The fact is that CuckooChess' algorithms and evaluation functions are just better than DoubleCheck's, and this is certainly not attributable to the superiority of Java...
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So I think it's quite clear that language choice is far from the most important factor when creating a chess engine. Above all, I suspect that developer knowledge and skill is what counts. |
Yes that is true. But the point of the original post was to figure out how to make C# efficient. And the reality is that you'll never be able to make it as efficient as C, and the only way to get "anywhere close" (say three times slower...) is to make your code even more complicated and harder to write/read than plain C. Kind of kills the whole point os using a high level language in the first place, doesn't it ?
But I persist and say that Java is total and utter crap. If you want to use a high level language, at least use a proper one like Python. I have no particular opinion on C#, as I don't know the language enough. But at least C# is a proper compiled language, and doesn't run in some stupid Java VM, and isn't a trap for developpers to then get sued by Oracle for enfringment of their software patents over Java. |
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Mark Pearce |
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Mark Pearce |
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Richard Allbert |
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Mark Pearce |
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