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ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article
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Roger Brown



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PostPost subject: Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article    Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:52 pm Reply to topic Reply with quote
dj wrote:

When members sought to post either the pro-Rajlich views of Sĝren Riis or neutral comments on the issue then they were all shunted off to the invisibility (to non-members) of the Engine Forum. Yet when the Grand Inquisitor himself initiates yet another unending spew of anti-Rajlich posts then the thread is put - and remains - on the main CCC forum.

Is there any reason for this - other than the one that is obvious to all of us?





Hello Derek,

Just saw this. I was otherwise occupied for a while....

I know that you are a master of the language so I must conclude that you are aware that your post clearly suggests that there is a moderator agenda.

Despite this, I am going to attempt to explain yet again.

There is no such agenda. There was one thread which I moved, not to shunt the posts to invisibility but because in my judgement - which you may criticise at will - it properly belonged there.

The invisibility of that forum pre-dated my moderator terms here. My personal preference is well known - let everybody talk the the thing to death and move on.

The Chessbase articles offered more of the same re-hashing of the problem and offered nothing new in terms of informational content.

The anti-ICGA, anti-Hyatt, anti-Grand Inquisitor posts are here as well in all their glory for all to see. No agenda there either. In fact, there is every view - pro, con and the tired neutrals.

Right now I say it again and again until I bore everyone with it - the only person who can clear up this issue with a wave of the hand is Vas. Before someone says what I did not intend to say let me clarify - I am not saying that Vas is guilty or that he must prove his innocence. Indeed, he is under no obligation to say anything at all.

I am simply stating what has appeared to be obvious to me from the beginning - Vas is the only person that make all of this attacking, spamming, heat, noise, divisiveness etc. disappear. Only Vas.

Not me. Not you. Not the 1,000 posters here and elsewhere.

I am going to slightly change my statement about Vas speaking. With respect to the supposed Ippo family of engines he does have an obligation to prove that assertions about them being Rybka clones are true - or publicly state that they are not so that they may be freely entered into tournaments etc.

It is ironic that a number of the "post it all here" group then proceed to lodge complaints about these very threads requiring moderator intervention.

You may disagree with the invisibility of the Engines Origins forum but is it an option to selectively move threads from there to the General Forum?

What would be the reason to deny others who have requested that various other posts detailing the supposed Rybka clones be moved here as well?

Perhaps the membership should vote on that as an issue for the next set of moderators about to come into the position.

I cannot and do not accept that I must be hovering over the board at all hours of the day and night to edit or delete or move posts by members who insist on behaving less than amiably.

Be passionate and all but there is a line between that and the rest of it.

Obviously there can be a discussion as to whether the forum is moderated and the effectiveness or lack thereof. Some believe that the forum is not moderated, some believe that at least one of the moderators is out of control and over-moderating.

I cannot imagine a more diverse set of personalities than the current three moderators. We are so far apart in temperament that it would make agreeing on a plot or agenda an impossible feat. Seriously.

Clearly, my statement about the non-existence of an agenda will scarcely be believed by those who know that there is an agenda but I offer it nonetheless.

Later.
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ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Robert Hyatt Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:01 am
      Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article George Speight Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:20 am
            Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article natasha donna Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:25 am
            Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Robert Hyatt Sun Jan 08, 2012 5:30 am
                  Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article M ANSARI Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:00 am
                        Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article George Speight Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:24 am
                              Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Gabor Szots Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:11 am
                                    Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article George Speight Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:54 pm
                                          Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article George Speight Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:25 pm
                              Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Robert Hyatt Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:08 pm
                                    Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article natasha donna Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:11 pm
                                          Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Robert Hyatt Sun Jan 08, 2012 7:54 pm
                                                Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article natasha donna Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:10 am
                                                      Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Ed Schroder Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:16 pm
                                                            Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article natasha donna Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:24 pm
                        Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article George Speight Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:26 am
                              Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Ingo Bauer Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:58 am
      Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Mike Scheidl Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:19 am
            Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Ted Summers Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:26 am
                  Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Ignacio Garcia Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:59 pm
            Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Ingo Bauer Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:03 am
      Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Harvey Williamson Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:40 pm
            Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Steve B Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:54 pm
                  Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Ed Schroder Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:20 pm
                        Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article K I Hyams Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:17 pm
                        Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Steve B Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:32 pm
                              Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Ed Schroder Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:03 pm
                                    Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article natasha donna Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:06 pm
                                    Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Steve B Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:27 pm
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                                    Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Ted Summers Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:34 pm
                                          Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Ed Schroder Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:56 pm
                                                Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article natasha donna Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:58 pm
                                                      Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Robert Hyatt Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:24 pm
                        Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Robert Hyatt Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:12 pm
                              Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Ed Schroder Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:19 pm
                  Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Steven Edwards Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:38 pm
                        Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Harvey Williamson Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:42 pm
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                        Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Ignacio Garcia Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:31 pm
      Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Derek Jones Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:41 pm
            Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Rolf Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:21 pm
                  Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Derek Jones Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:04 am
            Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Robert Hyatt Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:03 pm
            Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Roger Brown Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:52 pm
                  Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article gerold daniels Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:10 pm
                  Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Kai Laskos Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:49 pm
                        Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Sven Schüle Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:12 pm
                              Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article natasha donna Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:17 pm
                              Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Kai Laskos Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:23 pm
                                    Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article natasha donna Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:25 pm
                                    Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Sven Schüle Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:49 pm
                                          Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Kai Laskos Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:17 pm
                                                Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Sven Schüle Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:26 pm
                                                      Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Kai Laskos Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:31 pm
                                                            Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Kai Laskos Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:16 pm
                                                                  Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article natasha donna Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:40 pm
                                                                        Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Kai Laskos Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:49 pm
                                                                              Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article natasha donna Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:52 pm
                        Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Thomas Mayer Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:27 pm
                              Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article natasha donna Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:44 pm
                              Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Sven Schüle Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:45 pm
                                    Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Thomas Mayer Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:17 pm
                                          Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Roger Brown Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:29 am
                              Re: ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article Rolf Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:48 pm
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