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Ed Schroder



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PostPost subject: Tuning again    Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:20 am Reply to topic Reply with quote
Joona post [ http://74.220.23.57/forum/viewtopic.php?t=40662 ] brings back sweet memories.

For the use of self-play I at the time wrote a small util (see below) that emulates a match between 2 equal engines in order to find out how many games it would take before every try (round) would give a reliable result. I consider a reliable result in the range of 49.9 - 50.1%

After all 1% is 6-7 elo points.

Running the utility shows that 10,000 games so now and then still may produce a 49-51% result so one is still left with an 6-7 elo error margin.

Only after 100,000 games things become stable.

Since I don't have the hardware to play 100,000 games I limit myself to 4000. When it shows an improvement I run it again with a different database. Kind of verification process. Then I make a decision.

Thoughts ?

The C-code then with apologies for the "goto" use, I am raised with that.

Ed

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Code:

#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>

void main()            // emulate matches

{       int r,x,max,c; float win,loss,draw,f1,f2,f3,f4; char w[200]; int rnd,d,e;

        srand(rnd);

again:  printf("Number of Games "); gets(w); max=atoi(w);

loop:   x=0; win=0; loss=0; draw=0; printf("\n");

next:   if (x==max) goto einde;

        r=rand(); r=r&3; if (r==0) goto next;
        if (r==1) win++;
        if (r==2) loss++;
        if (r==3) draw++;
        x++; if (x==(max/4)) goto disp;
             if (x==(max/2)) goto disp;
             if (x==(max/4)+(max/2)) goto disp;
             if (x==max) goto disp;
        goto next;


disp:   f1=win+(draw/2); f2=loss+(draw/2); f4=x; f3=(f1*100)/f4; d=f1; e=f2;
        printf("%d-%d (%.1f%%)  ",d,e,f3);
        goto next;

einde:  c=getch(); if (c=='q') return;
        if (c=='a') { printf("\n\n"); goto again; }
        goto loop;

}

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Tuning again Ed Schroder Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:20 am
      Re: Tuning again Edmund Moshammer Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:42 am
            Re: Tuning again Ed Schroder Tue Nov 01, 2011 4:13 pm
                  Re: Tuning again Robert Hyatt Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:04 pm
      Re: Tuning again Joona Kiiski Tue Nov 01, 2011 4:20 pm
            Re: Tuning again Ed Schroder Tue Nov 01, 2011 6:11 pm
                  Re: Tuning again Joona Kiiski Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:25 pm
                  Re: Tuning again Marco Costalba Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:30 pm
                        Re: Tuning again Ed Schroder Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:55 pm
                              Re: Tuning again Marco Costalba Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:04 am
                                    Re: Tuning again Ed Schroder Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:29 pm
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                                                      Re: Tuning again H.G.Muller Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:29 pm
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                                                Re: Tuning again Ricardo Barreira Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:23 pm
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                                                                  Re: Tuning again Robert Hyatt Mon Nov 07, 2011 2:08 am
                                          Re: Tuning again H.G.Muller Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:24 pm
                                                Re: Tuning again Ed Schroder Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:16 am
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