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| c5 |
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Ted Summers

Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 3303 Location: Marietta, GA
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Post subject: Re: Whats the best move Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:34 pm |
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White has a winning position here, but the win was not as clear as it would seem. Here it appears the simple move 60. Bf5 is the best move to play. 60. c5 The move that was played in the game leads to a drawn position. See diagrams below to see how c5 leads to a draw.
Note that a5 will more than likely transpose into the c5 line.
[d]5k2/5pp1/3K3p/3Pp2P/P1P1B3/8/4r3/8 w - - 0 60
[d]5k2/5pp1/3K3p/2PPp2P/P3B3/8/4r3/8 b - - 0 60
[d]5k2/5pp1/3K3p/2PPp2P/P3r3/8/8/8 w - - 0 61
[d]5k2/5pp1/3K3p/P1PPp2P/4r3/8/8/8 b - - 0 61
[d]5k2/5pp1/3K3p/P1PPp2P/r7/8/8/8 w - - 0 62
[d]5k2/5pp1/2PK3p/P2Pp2P/r7/8/8/8 b - - 0 62
[d]5k2/5pp1/2PK3p/r2Pp2P/8/8/8/8 w - - 0 63
[d]5k2/2P2pp1/3K3p/r2Pp2P/8/8/8/8 b - - 0 63
[d]r4k2/2P2pp1/3K3p/3Pp2P/8/8/8/8 w - - 0 64
[d]r4k2/2P2pp1/2K4p/3Pp2P/8/8/8/8 b - - 0 64
[d]r3k3/2P2pp1/2K4p/3Pp2P/8/8/8/8 w - - 0 65
[d]r3k3/2P2pp1/2KP3p/4p2P/8/8/8/8 b - - 0 65
[d]4k3/2P2pp1/r1KP3p/4p2P/8/8/8/8 w - - 0 66
[d]4k3/1KP2pp1/r2P3p/4p2P/8/8/8/8 b - - 0 66
[d]4k3/1KP2pp1/3r3p/4p2P/8/8/8/8 w - - 0 67
[d]2Q1k3/1K3pp1/3r3p/4p2P/8/8/8/8 b - - 0 67
[d]2Q5/1K2kpp1/3r3p/4p2P/8/8/8/8 w - - 0 68
[d]1Q6/1K2kpp1/3r3p/4p2P/8/8/8/8 b - - 0 68
[d]1Q1r4/1K2kpp1/7p/4p2P/8/8/8/8 w - - 0 69
[d]3r4/1K2kpp1/7p/4Q2P/8/8/8/8 b - - 0 69
[d]3r1k2/1K3pp1/7p/4Q2P/8/8/8/8 w - - 0 70
[d]3r1k2/1K3pp1/7p/2Q4P/8/8/8/8 b - - 0 70
[d]3r2k1/1K3pp1/7p/2Q4P/8/8/8/8 w - - 0 71
[d]3r2k1/1K2Qpp1/7p/7P/8/8/8/8 b - - 0 71
[d]5rk1/1K2Qpp1/7p/7P/8/8/8/8 w - - 0 72
The Position is Drawn as White has no way to force a win with best play from here. {See diagram above}
[Event "60m + 15s, rated"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2009.10.11"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Hyperspace, Rybka 3 32-bit wate"]
[Black "NYTed, Rybka 3"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B81"]
[WhiteElo "2625"]
[BlackElo "2538"]
[Annotator "0.28;0.17"]
[PlyCount "261"]
[EventDate "2009.10.11"]
[EventType "rapid"]
[TimeControl "3600+15"]
1. e4 {0.05/1 0} c5 {B 0} 2. Nf3 {0.05/1 0} d6 {B 0} 3. d4 {0.05/1 0} cxd4 {B 0
} 4. Nxd4 {0.05/1 0} Nf6 {B 0} 5. Nc3 {0.05/1 0} a6 {B 0} 6. h3 {0.05/1 0} e6 {
B 0} 7. g4 {0.05/1 0} h6 {B 0} 8. Bg2 {0.05/1 0} Nc6 {B 0} 9. Be3 {0.05/1 0}
Ne5 {B 0} 10. Qe2 {0.05/1 0} Qc7 {B 0} 11. f4 {0.05/1 0} Nc4 {0.17/16 68} 12.
O-O-O {0.05/1 0} e5 {B 0} 13. Nf5 {0.28/16 86} Be6 {0.26/16 58} 14. fxe5 {0.33/
17 137} dxe5 {0.29/17 10} 15. Nd5 {0.34/18 152} Nxd5 {0.28/19 76} 16. exd5 {0.
35/19 105} Bxf5 {0.28/20 64} 17. gxf5 {0.35/20 89} Be7 {0.26/20 325 (Nxe3)} 18.
Kb1 {0.37/16 38} Nxe3 {0.24/20 90} 19. Qxe3 {0.27/19 44} Qd6 {0.20/20 125} 20.
Rhg1 {0.24/18 8} O-O {0.15/19 172} 21. Bf3 {0.18/18 0 (Rde1)} Kh8 {0.14/18 140}
22. Rg4 {0.17/17 0} b5 {0.11/18 94} 23. Qd2 {0.15/17 16 (h4)} Rac8 {0.10/19 160
} 24. Rdg1 {0.14/18 13 (h4)} Bf6 {0.01/18 174} 25. a3 {0.11/17 0 (c3)} Rb8 {0.
01/17 36 (Rfe8)} 26. h4 {0.00/16 71 (Qb4)} Rfc8 {0.00/17 32} 27. Qb4 {-0.02/18
180} Rc5 {-0.17/19 0} 28. Qe1 {-0.11/19 235} Rc4 {-0.16/19 0 (a5)} 29. Qg3 {-0.
15/17 68 (h5)} Rxg4 {-0.42/18 74} 30. Qxg4 {-0.28/18 46} b4 {-0.33/19 102 (e4)}
31. a4 {-0.32/19 109} Qd7 {-0.33/20 26} 32. Qc4 {-0.40/19 101} Qxf5 {-0.33/20
72 (Qxa4)} 33. Be4 {-0.31/19 40} Qc8 {-0.33/21 44} 34. Qxc8+ {-0.31/19 72} Rxc8
{-0.33/23 28} 35. h5 {-0.31/22 25} Kg8 {-0.33/23 22 (Be7)} 36. Ka2 {-0.31/22 60
} Be7 {-0.33/23 41} 37. Kb3 {-0.31/23 12} a5 {-0.32/24 52} 38. Bf5 {-0.31/25
45 (Rg3)} Rc7 {-0.32/24 68 (Rc5)} 39. c4 {-0.31/23 42 (Be4)} bxc3 {-0.32/23 26}
40. bxc3 {-0.31/24 25} Kf8 {-0.32/24 49} 41. Be4 {-0.31/24 15} Rc8 {-0.32/24
64 (Bd6)} 42. Bf5 {-0.31/22 43 (Rg3)} Rc5 {-0.32/24 47} 43. Be4 {-0.31/24 2}
Bd6 {-0.20/25 145} 44. Rg2 {-0.31/25 0 (Rb1)} Rc8 {-0.32/25 57 (Rc7)} 45. Rg1 {
-0.27/25 86 (Bf5)} Rc7 {-0.32/23 46 (Bc5)} 46. Rg4 {-0.26/23 33 (Rg3)} Bc5 {-0.
32/24 61} 47. Rg3 {-0.26/23 181 (Rg2)} Kg8 {-0.20/23 137 (f6)} 48. Rg2 {-0.11/
22 49 (Rg4)} Bd6 {-0.20/24 84} 49. Rg1 {-0.01/23 17 (Rb2)} Rc5 {-0.20/23 29
(Rc8)} 50. Rb1 {0.00/23 44} Kf8 {0.00/23 50} 51. c4 {0.00/25 47} Rc7 {0.00/24
11 (Rc8)} 52. Kc3 {0.00/22 26} Bb4+ {0.00/24 13} 53. Rxb4 {0.78/24 289} axb4+ {
0.00/24 137} 54. Kxb4 {0.78/25 82} Rb7+ {0.00/24 307} 55. Kc5 {0.98/26 199}
Rc7+ {0.00/22 103 (Ke8)} 56. Kb5 {1.45/20 52} Rb7+ {2.43/22 222} 57. Kc6 {1.82/
23 0} Rb4 {2.43/22 37} 58. Kc5 {2.46/22 227} Rb2 {2.53/23 0} 59. Kd6 {2.56/22
77} Re2 {2.53/23 17 (Rb4)} 60. c5 {2.59/22 60} Rxe4 {2.53/23 1} 61. a5 {2.74/
23 62} Ra4 {2.57/23 0} 62. c6 {2.74/25 58} Rxa5 {2.57/25 1} 63. c7 {2.74/26 40}
Ra8 {2.58/26 20} 64. Kc6 {2.74/27 43} Ke8 {2.58/27 3} 65. d6 {2.74/28 231} Ra6+
{2.58/28 0} 66. Kb7 {2.74/29 93} Rxd6 {2.58/30 23} 67. c8=Q+ {2.74/26 1} Ke7 {
2.58/28 226 (Rd8)} 68. Qb8 {2.74/25 30} Rd8 {2.58/27 134} 69. Qxe5+ {2.94/29 0}
Kf8 {3.07/29 104} 70. Qc5+ {2.94/31 0} Kg8 {3.07/30 17} 71. Qe7 {2.94/31 25}
Rf8 {3.07/30 15} 72. Qe4 {3.14/32 208 (Qd7)} f5 {3.07/30 18} 73. Qd5+ {3.14/31
147} Kh7 {3.07/31 0 (Kh8)} 74. Kc6 {3.34/28 74} Rf6+ {3.07/29 30} 75. Kc5 {3.
54/29 8} f4 {3.07/29 92 (Rf8)} 76. Qf3 {3.54/25 33} Kg8 {3.68/29 44} 77. Kd4 {
3.70/27 0} Kf7 {3.68/29 68} 78. Kd3 {3.70/28 0} Rf5 {3.68/28 36 (Kg8)} 79. Ke2
{3.70/24 25} Re5+ {3.68/28 6 (Rg5)} 80. Kf2 {3.70/27 17} Rg5 {3.68/29 3} 81.
Qxf4+ {3.70/29 18} Ke6 {3.68/30 5 (Ke7)} 82. Qe3+ {3.70/29 36 (Qc4+)} Kf7 {3.
68/30 10} 83. Qb3+ {3.70/31 18 (Qf3+)} Kf8 {3.68/32 16 (Kf6)} 84. Qf3+ {3.70/
31 14 (Qb8+)} Ke7 {3.68/33 18 (Kg8)} 85. Qb7+ {3.70/31 27 (Qd3)} Kf6 {3.68/32
15} 86. Qc6+ {3.70/32 59} Ke7 {3.68/33 0 (Kf7)} 87. Qe4+ {3.70/32 11 (Qf3)} Kf7
{3.68/32 12} 88. Qh1 {3.70/32 11 (Qc4+)} Rf5+ {3.68/30 10 (Kf6)} 89. Kg3 {3.70/
31 24} Rg5+ {3.68/32 10} 90. Kf4 {3.70/32 11} Kg8 {3.68/33 29 (Rb5)} 91. Qe4 {
3.70/32 17 (Ke3)} Rc5 {3.68/33 17} 92. Qe8+ {3.70/33 9} Kh7 {3.68/33 0} 93. Kg4
{3.70/34 40 (Qf7)} Rg5+ {3.68/34 10 (Rc4+)} 94. Kf3 {3.70/33 11 (Kh4)} Rf5+ {
3.68/34 14} 95. Ke4 {3.70/34 4 (Kg2)} Rg5 {3.68/35 14 (Rc5)} 96. Qf7 {3.70/35
25} Ra5 {3.68/36 12 (Rc5)} 97. Kd4 {3.70/34 21 (Kf4)} Rg5 {3.68/33 9 (Ra1)} 98.
Qe7 {3.70/32 21 (Qf3)} Kg8 {3.68/33 37} 99. Qd7 {3.70/33 0 (Qe8+)} Kf8 {3.68/
33 30 (Kh7)} 100. Qd6+ {3.70/31 13 (Qb7)} Kg8 {3.68/35 35 (Kf7)} 101. Qb8+ {3.
70/33 13 (Qe6+)} Kh7 {3.68/35 26 (Kf7)} 102. Qe8 {3.70/35 47} Ra5 {3.68/36 0
(Rg1)} 103. Qe4+ {3.70/34 18} Kh8 {3.68/36 1 (Kg8)} 104. Qe7 {3.70/34 17 (Qg6)}
Rg5 {3.68/34 31 (Ra4+)} 105. Qd7 {3.70/33 20 (Kc4)} Kg8 {3.68/34 8} 106. Qe8+ {
3.70/33 10} Kh7 {3.68/35 0} 107. Qe4+ {3.70/33 15} Kg8 {3.68/35 1} 108. Qa8+ {
3.70/33 72 (Qe2)} Kh7 {3.68/35 27 (Kf7)} 109. Qb7 {3.70/33 36} Ra5 {3.68/35 0
(Kg8)} 110. Qe7 {3.70/33 16 (Qf3)} Rg5 {3.68/34 9} 111. Qe3 {3.70/34 33 (Kc4)}
Ra5 {3.68/34 11 (Kh8)} 112. Qd3+ {3.70/34 24} Kh8 {3.68/36 11} 113. Qg6 {3.70/
33 10} Rg5 {3.68/37 45 (Ra4+)} 114. Qe6 {3.70/34 15} Ra5 {3.68/37 18 (Rg1)}
115. Qd7 {3.70/33 20 (Qc8+)} Kh7 {3.68/35 14 (Ra1)} 116. Qb7 {3.70/33 15} Kh8 {
3.68/35 26 (Ra1)} 117. Qc6 {3.70/33 14 (Kd3)} Rg5 {3.68/36 14 (Kg8)} 118. Qf3 {
3.70/34 42 (Qc8+)} Kg8 {3.68/36 52} 119. Qb3+ {3.70/34 0 (Qe4)} Kh7 {3.68/35 11
} 120. Qf7 {3.70/35 16} Ra5 {3.68/36 30} 121. Kd3 {3.70/35 0 (Ke4)} Rc5 {3.68/
35 16 (Re5)} 122. Qe6 {3.70/32 17 (Ke3)} Rg5 {3.68/35 42 (Rc1)} 123. Qe4+ {3.
70/32 42} Kg8 {3.68/36 0} 124. Qc4+ {3.70/30 33 (Qe8+)} Kf8 {3.68/30 15 (Kh7)}
125. Qf4+ {3.70/28 28} Ke7 {3.68/31 9} 126. Qc7+ {3.70/28 14} Kf6 {3.48/30 22
(Ke6)} 127. Qd6+ {3.61/22 25 (Qc3+)} Kf5 {0.00/27 13 (Kf7)} 128. Ke3 {3.70/25
22 (Kd4)} Rg1 {0.00/34 9} 129. Qc7 {0.00/34 10} Kf6 {0.00/38 4} 130. Kd4 {0.00/
37 15 (Qf4+)} Rd1+ {0.00/40 12 (Rf1)} 131. Ke4 {0.00/59 1 (Lag: Av=0.35s,
max=3.4s)} 1/2-1/2 _________________ "Good decisions come from experience, and experience comes from bad decisions." |
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Whats the best move |
Ted Summers |
Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:02 am |
Re: Whats the best move |
Paul Villanueva |
Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:00 pm |
Re: Whats the best move |
gerold daniels |
Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:36 pm |
Re: Whats the best move |
Terry McCracken |
Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:12 pm |
Re: Whats the best move |
Kurt Utzinger |
Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:55 pm |
Re: Whats the best move |
Ted Summers |
Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:34 pm |
Re: Whats the best move |
Vincent Lejeune |
Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:17 pm |
Re: Whats the best move |
Ted Summers |
Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:34 pm |
Re: Whats the best move |
Terry McCracken |
Sun Oct 11, 2009 5:04 pm |
Re: Whats the best move |
Steve B |
Sun Oct 11, 2009 5:07 pm |
Re: Whats the best move |
Ted Summers |
Sun Oct 11, 2009 5:28 pm |
Re: Whats the best move |
Steve B |
Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:16 pm |
Re: Whats the best move |
Ted Summers |
Sun Oct 11, 2009 5:16 pm |
Re: Whats the best move |
Terry McCracken |
Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:07 pm |
Re: Whats the best move |
Ted Summers |
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