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An instructive problem
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Uri Blass



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PostPost subject: Re: An instructive problem    Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:57 pm Reply to topic Reply with quote

Movei has no problem to see it
It seems that the problem is with your static evaluation and the main line
1...hxg5 2.hxg5 Ne4 3.Qh5 f6 4.Qh8+ Kf7 5.g6+ Ke6 6.Qxg7 simply should be evaluated as better for white relative to the alternative

I am not impressed by vincent's claims that diep solves it at depth 2 by static evaluation.

We do not know if it solves it because of good evaluation or because of bad evaluation that can cause diep also to play often wrong sacrifices.


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r1bqr1k1/pp2bpp1/5n1p/3p2N1/3B3P/2PB1Q2/PP3PP1/R4K1R b - - 0 1

Analysis by Movei00_8_403:

1...hxg5
-+ (-1.92) Depth: 1 00:00:00
1...hxg5 2.hxg5
-+ (-1.92) Depth: 2 00:00:00
1...hxg5 2.hxg5
-+ (-1.92) Depth: 2 00:00:00
1...hxg5 2.hxg5
-+ (-2.22) Depth: 3 00:00:00
1...hxg5 2.hxg5 Bg4
-+ (-2.25) Depth: 3 00:00:00
1...hxg5 2.hxg5 Bg4
-+ (-2.25) Depth: 3 00:00:00
1...hxg5 2.hxg5 Bg4 3.Qf4
-+ (-2.35) Depth: 4 00:00:00
1...hxg5 2.hxg5 Bg4 3.Qf4
-+ (-2.35) Depth: 4 00:00:00
1...hxg5 2.hxg5
-+ (-2.05) Depth: 5 00:00:00
1...hxg5 2.hxg5
µ (-1.35) Depth: 5 00:00:00
1...hxg5 2.hxg5 Ne4 3.Bxe4 dxe4
µ (-0.96) Depth: 5 00:00:00
1...hxg5 2.hxg5 Ne4 3.Bxe4 dxe4
µ (-0.96) Depth: 5 00:00:00
1...hxg5 2.hxg5
µ (-1.26) Depth: 6 00:00:00 14kN
1...hxg5
³ (-0.66) Depth: 6 00:00:00 16kN
1...hxg5
³ (-0.66) Depth: 6 00:00:00 32kN
1...hxg5 2.hxg5
³ (-0.36) Depth: 7 00:00:00 38kN
1...hxg5 2.hxg5 Ne4 3.Qh5 f6 4.Qh8+ Kf7 5.g6+ Ke6 6.Qxg7
= (0.02) Depth: 7 00:00:00 44kN
1...b6 2.Nh3
= (0.01) Depth: 7 00:00:00 76kN
1...b6 2.Bh7+ Kf8 3.Bd3 Kg8
= (0.00) Depth: 7 00:00:00 104kN
1...Bg4 2.Qg3
= (-0.01) Depth: 7 00:00:00 134kN
1...Bg4 2.Qg3
³ (-0.30) Depth: 7 00:00:00 142kN
1...Bg4 2.Qg3 Qd7 3.Nf3 Bd6 4.Ne5 Qa4
³ (-0.34) Depth: 7 00:00:00 156kN
1...Bg4 2.Qg3 Qd7 3.Nf3 Bd6 4.Ne5 Qa4
³ (-0.34) Depth: 7 00:00:00 171kN
1...Bg4 2.Qg3 Qd7 3.Nf3 Nh5 4.Qh2 Bf5 5.Be2
³ (-0.44) Depth: 8 00:00:00 204kN
1...Bg4 2.Qg3 Qd7 3.Nf3 Nh5 4.Qh2 Bf5 5.Be2
³ (-0.44) Depth: 8 00:00:01 249kN
1...Bg4 2.Qg3 Qd7 3.Nf3 Nh5 4.Qh2 Bxf3 5.gxf3 Rac8
³ (-0.56) Depth: 9 00:00:01 319kN
1...Bg4 2.Qg3 Qd7 3.Nf3 Nh5 4.Qh2 Bxf3 5.gxf3 Rac8
³ (-0.56) Depth: 9 00:00:01 405kN
1...Bg4 2.Qg3 Qd7 3.Nf3 Nh5 4.Qh2 Bxf3 5.gxf3 Bf6 6.Bc5
³ (-0.58) Depth: 10 00:00:02 536kN
1...Bg4 2.Qg3 Qd7 3.Nf3 Nh5 4.Qh2 Bxf3 5.gxf3 Bf6 6.Bc5
³ (-0.58) Depth: 10 00:00:03 849kN

(Uri, MyTown 30.05.2007)
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An instructive problem mambofish Fri May 25, 2007 6:23 pm
      Re: An instructive problem Pradu Kannan Fri May 25, 2007 7:31 pm
            Re: An instructive problem Gerd Isenberg Fri May 25, 2007 8:05 pm
                  Re: An instructive problem Vincent Diepeveen Sat May 26, 2007 7:19 pm
                        Re: An instructive problem mambofish Wed May 30, 2007 12:47 am
            Re: An instructive problem mambofish Fri May 25, 2007 8:10 pm
      Re: An instructive problem Vincent Diepeveen Sat May 26, 2007 7:17 pm
      Re: An instructive problem Uri Blass Wed May 30, 2007 12:57 pm
            Re: An instructive problem mambofish Wed May 30, 2007 3:24 pm
                  Re: An instructive problem Uri Blass Wed May 30, 2007 4:06 pm
                        Re: An instructive problem mambofish Wed May 30, 2007 9:02 pm
                              Re: An instructive problem Alessandro Scotti Wed May 30, 2007 9:35 pm
                                    Re: An instructive problem mambofish Wed May 30, 2007 10:00 pm
                                          Re: An instructive problem Alessandro Scotti Wed May 30, 2007 10:14 pm
                              Re: An instructive problem Uri Blass Wed May 30, 2007 9:52 pm
                                    Re: An instructive problem mambofish Wed May 30, 2007 10:40 pm
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