As earlier, my project Sting is based on Stockfish 2.1.1 free source code.
I found and corrected two seriouse bugs in the code of Stockfish, and they were very important for all my work.
For this, I removed links to all the previous versions of Sting.
Practically the version of Sting sf 5 is the same as previous 4.8.4 but "only" with these corrections.
The strenght of both should be similar and, in my opinion, it has no sense to test it.
A few words about my project.
I stated this to prove that engines can solve very difficult chess positions (the horizon effect) and to save a high ELO.
For Sting, an ELO question (gain) aplies only to the difference between Sting and the parent Stockfish 2.1.1 .
I solved many code questions and the problem with horizon effect (appears mainly in endgames), is already no motivation for scientists to create any artifical intelligence.
I see some new questions for my project but now it is not too easy to find chess positions out of range for engines.
Link: http://www.mediafire.com/download/utuh6 ... g-sf-5.zip
It contains: win32, x64 and x64(Win XP) compilations.
Sting-sf-5 release
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Re: Sting-sf-5 release
Good News!
Give me an order if I have to test a new version of Sting SF. Must be an official version for me (I am not test private engines or alpha, beta, cesar test versions).
For the moment I hold version 4.8 in my rating list.
THANKS!!
I like your work!
Best
Frank
Give me an order if I have to test a new version of Sting SF. Must be an official version for me (I am not test private engines or alpha, beta, cesar test versions).
For the moment I hold version 4.8 in my rating list.
THANKS!!
I like your work!
Best
Frank
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Re: Sting-sf-5 release
Thank's Marek for this Version of Sting!
Would you please tell us what kind of bug you found?
And what effects in analysis they have?
Would you please tell us what kind of bug you found?
And what effects in analysis they have?
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Re: Sting-sf-5 release
The first bug leads to crashing of Sting on a very high depths (too smal memory for ss).Paloma wrote:Thank's Marek for this Version of Sting!
Would you please tell us what kind of bug you found?
And what effects in analysis they have?
The second doesn't allow to find the correct move (futilityValue goes over beta after a possible weak capture).
It is described with examples here: http://talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=55411
BTW. Sting sf 5 is not a beta version.
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Re: Sting-sf-5 release
Hi Marek this is good news !
But you say that you are near to finish, I really hope you will continue because you are going to realize what I considered impossible before.
I think you have at least 5 years of advances on other engines for these kind of fortress or impossible position.
Thanks a lot for your very good job !!
But you say that you are near to finish, I really hope you will continue because you are going to realize what I considered impossible before.
I think you have at least 5 years of advances on other engines for these kind of fortress or impossible position.
Thanks a lot for your very good job !!
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Re: Sting-sf-5 release
Indeed I am very close to end my work. Unfortunately, it happens.fishpov wrote:Hi Marek this is good news !
But you say that you are near to finish, I really hope you will continue because you are going to realize what I considered impossible before.
I think you have at least 5 years of advances on other engines for these kind of fortress or impossible position.
Thanks a lot for your very good job !!
Some information about the last version 4.8.4:
Sting SF 4.8.4 was downloaded 1139 times (previuos 4.7 - 997).
CCRL 40/40 (complete list).
Sting SF 4.8.4 64-bit 4CPU 3147 285 games
Stockfish 2.1.1 64-bit 4CPU 3128 406 games
Sting SF 4.8.4 64-bit 3076 370 games
Stockfish 2.1.1 64-bit 3069 1186 games
Many thanks for CCRL team!
At the end my liked funny position for engines. I set it myself a few years ago.
[d]rk6/p1p5/Bp2p3/1P6/q2B1P2/4K3/8/8 b - - to win it needs to sacrifice Queen (now or later) for one of white Bishops ONLY (to make Rook a8 free and to realize passed pawns).
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Re: Sting-sf-5 release
Marek, I hope you like challenges because this one, will probably be the toughest you'll ever face.
The Arasan Testsuite is arguably the strongest tactical testsuite of all, and is very essential in determining an engine's calculation reflexes when exposed to such positions. You can find it here; http://www.arasanchess.org/arasan18.epd
Currently, Houdini is the king of tactical positions. Stockfish solves only about 134/250 of the problems given one minute to think in the Arasan testsuite, while Houdini solves 203/250 of the problems! It is practically impossible for an engine to solve all the problems in the test suite and the day that happens, will be a great day. The challenge is, can YOU make it happen?
The Arasan Testsuite is arguably the strongest tactical testsuite of all, and is very essential in determining an engine's calculation reflexes when exposed to such positions. You can find it here; http://www.arasanchess.org/arasan18.epd
Currently, Houdini is the king of tactical positions. Stockfish solves only about 134/250 of the problems given one minute to think in the Arasan testsuite, while Houdini solves 203/250 of the problems! It is practically impossible for an engine to solve all the problems in the test suite and the day that happens, will be a great day. The challenge is, can YOU make it happen?
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Re: Sting-sf-5 release
But on this Pos. here Sting SF 5 still sticks on Depth 29 (more than 4 hours, reaches Depth 29 in 15 min.)
Especially the pv and the kN/s changed never since then (after 15 min 1469 kN/n after 4 h still 1469)
Please Click on the Picture to enlarge.
I used 1 core and Taskmanager shows 50% utilization, but no progess with Sting's output.
It seems Sting hangs in a *infinity loop*
Especially the pv and the kN/s changed never since then (after 15 min 1469 kN/n after 4 h still 1469)
Please Click on the Picture to enlarge.
I used 1 core and Taskmanager shows 50% utilization, but no progess with Sting's output.
It seems Sting hangs in a *infinity loop*
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This is completely incorrect, unless you have crippled Stockfish or are running it on an abacus.Lanzo wrote: Stockfish solves only about 134/250 of the problems given one minute to think in the Arasan testsuite,
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Re: Sting-sf-5 release
This position seams not to be very difficult.
My slightly modified stockfish gives the right move just from the start.
Kind regards
Bernhard
My slightly modified stockfish gives the right move just from the start.
Kind regards
Bernhard
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