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Albert Silver wrote:
IGarcia wrote:
Martin Thoresen wrote:It was a really tame attempt by Anand today. I would expect more. I can safely say that this looked like a comfortable draw by Carlsen.
I do agree. Stil there is a good reason behind this. In football, wen you receive a goal you main objective is to not receive a second one. Or a third one, like in this case.

Maybe was better strategy to seek a draw as white in 6th game and push for a win in this one, again with white. But been 2 games down, some caution is needed to avoid been 3 games down.

Ignacio.
I have to disagree. There is a football expression in Brazil: "there is little difference between losing by ten goals or losing by a thousand"
I thought ignacio was expressing a logic that after 2 losses it may have been psychologically a good idea to ensure not losing a third but to show one (oneself) cannot be beaten normally, and later to try another push.

Today, in the press conference after the game, carlson said he was not in a mood to do much thinking. Perhaps after this he will be in even less a mood, and from now on anand can succeed in pulling off 2-3 wins.
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Am I the only one thinking that Anand adopted an anti-computer style against Carlsen? :lol:
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S.Taylor wrote:
Albert Silver wrote:
IGarcia wrote:
Martin Thoresen wrote:It was a really tame attempt by Anand today. I would expect more. I can safely say that this looked like a comfortable draw by Carlsen.
I do agree. Stil there is a good reason behind this. In football, wen you receive a goal you main objective is to not receive a second one. Or a third one, like in this case.

Maybe was better strategy to seek a draw as white in 6th game and push for a win in this one, again with white. But been 2 games down, some caution is needed to avoid been 3 games down.

Ignacio.
I have to disagree. There is a football expression in Brazil: "there is little difference between losing by ten goals or losing by a thousand"
I thought ignacio was expressing a logic that after 2 losses it may have been psychologically a good idea to ensure not losing a third but to show one cannot be beaten normally, and later to try another push.

Today, in the press conference after the game, carlson said he was not in a mood to do much thinking. Perhaps after this he will be in even less a mood, and from now on anand can succeed in pulling off 2-3 wins.
Yes thats was the idea... stop loses, clam down and try a win in next games.
But today was not in that direction. This was too simple game. Like the ones I see in club :?
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Re: FIDE World Chess Championship thread.

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Hello:

After the 8th game, maintaining the same parameters than other times:

Code: Select all

White advantage:              40.0 Elo.
Supposed rating difference:   47.0 Elo.

            1000000 simulations:

Carlsen wins:               975624
Anand wins:                   1770
Drawn matches:               22606

Approximated elapsed time:    0.69 seconds.
97.5624% + 0.3*2.2606% = 98.24058% ~ 98.24% after 1e+6 simulations. There is almost no change when comparing with the last time (circa 98.22% or 98.23%).

It looks like Carlsen will be the new WC with less than 23 years old!

Regards from Spain.

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that's it!

alot of people like magnus, but sad for those who wanted anand to get back into it.

Carlsen is probably jumping for joy inside himself, but outside, he has to say a bit of "ahhhhh what a shame! Anand didn't really have to blunder! i could have afforded another draw or even one loss!"
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[pgn][Event "FWCM 2013"]
[Site "Chennai"]
[Date "2013.11.21"]
[Round "9"]
[White "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Black "Carlsen, Magnus"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "E25"]
[WhiteElo "2775"]
[BlackElo "2870"]
[PlyCount "56"]
[TimeControl "40/7200:20/3600:900+30"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. f3 d5 5. a3 Bxc3+ 6. bxc3 c5 7. cxd5 exd5 8.
e3 c4 9. Ne2 Nc6 10. g4 O-O 11. Bg2 Na5 12. O-O Nb3 13. Ra2 b5 14. Ng3 a5 15.
g5 Ne8 16. e4 Nxc1 17. Qxc1 Ra6 18. e5 Nc7 19. f4 b4 20. axb4 axb4 21. Rxa6
Nxa6 22. f5 b3 23. Qf4 Nc7 24. f6 g6 25. Qh4 Ne8 26. Qh6 b2 27. Rf4 b1=Q+ 28.
Nf1 Qe1 0-1
[/pgn]

After a great kingside attack by Anand, 28.Nf1? instead of Bf1 suddenly lost the game. Carlsen will certainly make at least 0.5/3 in the remaining match games, thus becoming the new World Champion. And I am sure, Anand will remain the wonderful player that he is, on the highest level.
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YES, it IS the end of an era, probably.
I would have prefered just one more time for Anand, (and who knows, maybe even Gelfand would have managed next time,) and then, we could have our new era!
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Re: FIDE World Chess Championship thread

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Mike S. wrote:[pgn][Event "FWCM 2013"]
[Site "Chennai"]
[Date "2013.11.21"]
[Round "9"]
[White "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Black "Carlsen, Magnus"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "E25"]
[WhiteElo "2775"]
[BlackElo "2870"]
[PlyCount "56"]
[TimeControl "40/7200:20/3600:900+30"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. f3 d5 5. a3 Bxc3+ 6. bxc3 c5 7. cxd5 exd5 8.
e3 c4 9. Ne2 Nc6 10. g4 O-O 11. Bg2 Na5 12. O-O Nb3 13. Ra2 b5 14. Ng3 a5 15.
g5 Ne8 16. e4 Nxc1 17. Qxc1 Ra6 18. e5 Nc7 19. f4 b4 20. axb4 axb4 21. Rxa6
Nxa6 22. f5 b3 23. Qf4 Nc7 24. f6 g6 25. Qh4 Ne8 26. Qh6 b2 27. Rf4 b1=Q+ 28.
Nf1 Qe1 0-1
[/pgn]

After a great kingside attack by Anand, 28.Nf1? instead of Bf1 suddenly lost the game. Carlsen will certainly make at least 0.5/3 in the remaining match games, thus becoming the new World Champion. And I am sure, Anand will remain the wonderful player that he is, on the highest level.
It is sad to see a player of Anand's calibre crash 'n' burn after such a strong attack.
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Re: FIDE World Chess Championship thread

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Terry McCracken wrote:
Mike S. wrote:[pgn][Event "FWCM 2013"]
[Site "Chennai"]
[Date "2013.11.21"]
[Round "9"]
[White "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Black "Carlsen, Magnus"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "E25"]
[WhiteElo "2775"]
[BlackElo "2870"]
[PlyCount "56"]
[TimeControl "40/7200:20/3600:900+30"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. f3 d5 5. a3 Bxc3+ 6. bxc3 c5 7. cxd5 exd5 8.
e3 c4 9. Ne2 Nc6 10. g4 O-O 11. Bg2 Na5 12. O-O Nb3 13. Ra2 b5 14. Ng3 a5 15.
g5 Ne8 16. e4 Nxc1 17. Qxc1 Ra6 18. e5 Nc7 19. f4 b4 20. axb4 axb4 21. Rxa6
Nxa6 22. f5 b3 23. Qf4 Nc7 24. f6 g6 25. Qh4 Ne8 26. Qh6 b2 27. Rf4 b1=Q+ 28.
Nf1 Qe1 0-1
[/pgn]

After a great kingside attack by Anand, 28.Nf1? instead of Bf1 suddenly lost the game. Carlsen will certainly make at least 0.5/3 in the remaining match games, thus becoming the new World Champion. And I am sure, Anand will remain the wonderful player that he is, on the highest level.
It is sad to see a player of Anand's calibre crash 'n' burn after such a strong attack.

Yes but we must remember that Anand is a very very old man - past

40 years of age no doubt... It's not so easy to play topchess then... :wink: