The things which really struck me as I analyzed the games using Houdini and Stockfish, is the superiority of the computers. Carlsen missed quite a few clear chances to win according to the engines (e.g. 35... Rd8!). Of course the complexity of this game is the sweat-spot for computers.
The things which really struck me as I analyzed the games using Houdini and Stockfish, is the superiority of the computers. Carlsen missed quite a few clear chances to win according to the engines (e.g. 35... Rd8!). Of course the complexity of this game is the sweat-spot for computers.
Steve
I remember an interview of Karpov when he was asked if Kasparov losing to Deep Blue (it was in 1996, before the first match) would mean the end of human chess. He answered that Formula 1 races didn't kill Olympic Games.
He is very right with that. Yes, we, patzers, can spot Super-GMs' mistakes and inaccuracies with our engines, but I think we can still feel excitement for the human efforts and style. What's new, in the other hand, is that people who've heard of engine vs engine games also love to watch them (for instance, nTCEC is a real show!)
The things which really struck me as I analyzed the games using Houdini and Stockfish, is the superiority of the computers. Carlsen missed quite a few clear chances to win according to the engines (e.g. 35... Rd8!). Of course the complexity of this game is the sweat-spot for computers.
Steve
Steve, where did you or Houdini see a clear win after 35... Rd8?
Actually I think the whole game was very complicated and nevertheless
never stepped out of the draw margin.
Laskos wrote:
I also get 70%/30% with similar parameters. Betters give 71%/29%, very close to these simulations.
Now, after game 4, my simulations give 68%/32%, betters strangely give 72%/28%, probably impressed by Carlsen almost winning as black in Berlin wall. One more such game, and it would be probably a good bet on Anand.
As to aesthetic pleasure watching game 4, I cannot help myself not thinking of how strong even an engine on a phone is nowadays. I watched this on my Android phone, and after a blunder, I abandoned quickly the option of firing two available engines, to not spoil all of the patzer like me fun.
Till now I don't have the luxury to follow the games live....
Dr.D
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
Ah,the Ruy Lopez Berlin Defence,Kasparov's favourite defence against the spanish invasion
He applied it over and over again against many players including Anand who has a big experience with this opening line....
And as Carlsen was his pupil for some time,it's fully understandable why he choose this particular opening....
A great game I'd say,I enjoyed it a lot and will give it an OTB deeper analysis when I have more time....
Dr.D
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
The things which really struck me as I analyzed the games using Houdini and Stockfish, is the superiority of the computers. Carlsen missed quite a few clear chances to win according to the engines (e.g. 35... Rd8!). Of course the complexity of this game is the sweat-spot for computers.
Steve
This statement correlates perfectly with Kim's opinion about the super Grandmasters chess abilities
Read Kim's thoughts on this few posts above
Dr.D
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
The match really started this time !
