CCT 15 - 72 hours left to register

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Re: CCT 15 - 72 hours left to register

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About mamer:

The tournament is conducted by an automated tourney-manager program, called 'mamer', running as a user (with super-powers) on the ICS. To make it do things, you have to send it commands through an ICS message, i.e. using the 'tell' command, "tell mamer ...". The ICS has defined a shortcut for this, "mam ...".

The comands you most likely need are

"mam who 1"
"mam games 1"

To give you the (ranked) list of participants and the games of the current round of tourney #1. (We will make sure CCT will be tourney #1.) These thus are distinct from the ICS "who" and "games" commands, which will give you all people logged in to the ICS, and all games being played on it, also those from non-participants.

To make it easier to give those commands, I do supply a file "ICS menu.xop" in the WinBoard 4.7.0 installer to configure these commands in the ICS menu. You can then simply select "Tourney Standings" or "Tourney Games" from the menu that pops up on right-click to issue these commands.

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For those who don't want to install the winBoard 4.7.beta yet: the contents of this file is

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;
; alter settings file to the one for ICS, if present
;
/settingsFile=%APPDATA%\winboard_ics.ini
;
; set ICS mode
;
/ics
;
; define ICS context menu
;
/icsMenu={-
&Who,who,0,1
Playe&rs,players,0,1
&Games,games,0,1
&Sought,sought,0,1
Tourne&y Standings,mam who 1,0,1
Tour&ney Games,mam games 1,0,1
| ,none,0,0
Open Chat &Box (name),chat,1,0
&Tell (name),tell,1,0
M&essage (name),message,1,0
-
&Finger (name),finger,1,1
&Vars (name),vars,1,1
&Observe (name),observe,1,1
&Match (name),match,1,1
Pl&ay (name),play,1,1
&History (name),hist,1,1
Mailstored (name),mailstor %s -1,1,1
}
Running your existing WinBoard install with as "Additional options" (in the Startup Dialog) "@FILENAME" (where FILENAME is the name of the file you put this in), will make your ICS menu contain these commands.
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Wow! :!:
Many thanks. Highly appreciated.
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Peter Skinner wrote:Hello everyone,

With only 72 hours left to register for CCT 15, it is shaping up to be a fantastic event.
I can't wait to watch! Grabbing a small pizza, some wings and plopping on my couch to watch it on my TV :)


Note: for those who are curious I have a Rasberry Pi tethered to my TV running xboard in /small mode but looks great on the TV.
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Peter Skinner wrote:
Does Playchess have a Linux client? If not, then that's a no go.

Peter
Indeed, if it does not then that rules out playchess. Linux seems to be far more popular among chess enthusiasts than it is in the general population.
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Peter Skinner wrote:
Albert Silver wrote:Just out of curiosity: are you really saying that pages and pages of diagrams and instructions is what is meant by "easier to join and watch?

You should have talked to me and we could have done it in Playchess. Any guest can view a broadcast, and you do not need to create an account. ICC is the one with restrictions. FWIW, the offer is on the table this very minute.
Does Playchess have a Linux client? If not, then that's a no go.

Peter
*Shrug*
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Modern Times wrote:
Peter Skinner wrote:
Does Playchess have a Linux client? If not, then that's a no go.

Peter
Indeed, if it does not then that rules out playchess. Linux seems to be far more popular among chess enthusiasts than it is in the general population.
Perhaps, but on the other hand, the potential viewing audience is much much larger, and I could arrange to have it placed in the event calendar in the main Broadcast area, the same where the elite GM events take place. Also, Playchess has free Android and iOS clients to view from as well.
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Albert Silver wrote:
Peter Skinner wrote:
Albert Silver wrote:Just out of curiosity: are you really saying that pages and pages of diagrams and instructions is what is meant by "easier to join and watch?

You should have talked to me and we could have done it in Playchess. Any guest can view a broadcast, and you do not need to create an account. ICC is the one with restrictions. FWIW, the offer is on the table this very minute.
Does Playchess have a Linux client? If not, then that's a no go.

Peter
*Shrug*
There exists a workaround. Create a pipe/socket between the Linux engine and the playchess client on a microsoft box. Thus, the microsoft box can be fairly weak as long as there is good network connectivity between the two machines. I've done it before and it works fine.

Another way is to run a playchess client in wine or something of the sort.

The issue would be accounts for the tournament participants. I wouldn't mind trying an event on playchess if they didn't charge all the participants for an account.
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CRoberson wrote:
Albert Silver wrote:
Peter Skinner wrote:
Albert Silver wrote:Just out of curiosity: are you really saying that pages and pages of diagrams and instructions is what is meant by "easier to join and watch?

You should have talked to me and we could have done it in Playchess. Any guest can view a broadcast, and you do not need to create an account. ICC is the one with restrictions. FWIW, the offer is on the table this very minute.
Does Playchess have a Linux client? If not, then that's a no go.

Peter
*Shrug*
There exists a workaround. Create a pipe/socket between the Linux engine and the playchess client on a microsoft box. Thus, the microsoft box can be fairly weak as long as there is good network connectivity between the two machines. I've done it before and it works fine.

Another way is to run a playchess client in wine or something of the sort.

The issue would be accounts for the tournament participants. I wouldn't mind trying an event on playchess if they didn't charge all the participants for an account.
It goes without saying no participant would be charged. In any case it is just an offer.
"Tactics are the bricks and sticks that make up a game, but positional play is the architectural blueprint."
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Albert Silver wrote:
Peter Skinner wrote:
Albert Silver wrote:Just out of curiosity: are you really saying that pages and pages of diagrams and instructions is what is meant by "easier to join and watch?

You should have talked to me and we could have done it in Playchess. Any guest can view a broadcast, and you do not need to create an account. ICC is the one with restrictions. FWIW, the offer is on the table this very minute.
Does Playchess have a Linux client? If not, then that's a no go.

Peter
*Shrug*
I just check the site and search the instructions and found

"If you do want to play with a computer, you can do so in the engine room, but only if you own the full Fritz program."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV1LzXf1TKQ

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I thought it would be obvios that using PlayChess would be inferior in almost every respect:
* Less capable client for viewing
* Which is more complex to operate
* Which does not come with an elaborate tutorial like the one posted here
* Guest viewers more restricted in what they are allowed to do
* Participants resticted to a single commercial client
* Of which the support for WB engines sucks
* Which might not support the format of their opening book
* Hassle to obtain accounts, which normally are non-free
* Work-arounds needed on Linux