Sting SF 2.0

[lech]

Further Sting SF 2.0 is for people and should help in analysis (zugzwangs, difficult sacrifices).
My work is in progress and I am very happy to see many interesting positions. It helps me.

Now, I can only share a substitute of Sting (without name, my name and source code). It will be only 32bit-exe file without license and any guaranty. Of course, I will wait for feedback.

All my friends who accept these conditions and want to get it and help me please let me know by message box.

BTW
Sting SF 2.0 is 2900+ and works without tricks, parameters etc.

[zullil]

Further Sting SF 2.0 is for people and should help in analysis (zugzwangs, difficult sacrifices).
My work is in progress and I am very happy to see many interesting positions. It helps me.

Now, I can only share a substitute of Sting (without name, my name and source code). It will be only 32bit-exe file without license and any guaranty. Of course, I will wait for feedback.

All my friends who accept these conditions and want to get it and help me please let me know by message box.

BTW
Sting SF 2.0 is 2900+ and works without tricks, parameters etc.

Isn't Sting a modification of Stockfish?

If so, are you permitted to release an executable without the source code?

I am worried that you are (unintentionally) violating the Stockfish license.

[zamar]

Further Sting SF 2.0 is for people and should help in analysis (zugzwangs, difficult sacrifices).
My work is in progress and I am very happy to see many interesting positions. It helps me.

Now, I can only share a substitute of Sting (without name, my name and source code). It will be only 32bit-exe file without license and any guaranty. Of course, I will wait for feedback.

All my friends who accept these conditions and want to get it and help me please let me know by message box.

BTW
Sting SF 2.0 is 2900+ and works without tricks, parameters etc.

Isn't Sting a modification of Stockfish?

If so, are you permitted to release an executable without the source code?

I am worried that you are (unintentionally) violating the Stockfish license.

No, he is doing it intentionally.
Just one more troll.
Anyway based on his previous posts, I'm >99% that this guy isn't able to code anything useful, so you can simply ignore him...

[Eelco de Groot]

It just would be better especially if you are making changes to GPL based code, to stick to the license and provide the source and a list with changes also to the beta-testers. The beta testers are free to do what they want with he code and the source, as long as they themselves also follow the GPL, so from that point of view, maybe Marek does not like to see unfinished betas, or unfinished code circulating if beta testers prove not trustworthy, or not sticking to agreements you make with them because they see the code as GPL and think they can do what they like with Marek's copyrighted changes. Not true. Within an organization, you can circulate changed code, or unchanged code without always including the sources, because that is not publishing in the copyright sense. Betatesters could be seen as part of an organized group. But for Marek's sake, I advise him to just follow the GPL to the letter here and always include the changed sources in any package, never only the executable. Saves worries, headaches and hurt feelings reading slightly uncalled for reactions like that of Joona above. But that is just my opinion.

Regards,
Eelco

[syzygy]

Within an organization, you can circulate changed code, or unchanged code without always including the sources, because that is not publishing in the copyright sense. Betatesters could be seen as part of an organized group.

But he just made a public offer. You can't circumvent the GPL by distributing on the condition that recipients become part of a special "organisation".

In the end, copyright DOES apply within organisations such as companies. As an employee, you're not allowed to buy a software product and share it with everybody within the company, unless the license allows this.

In the case of the GPL, the FSF suggests on its website that certain forms of "on-site internal distribution" are allowed by the GPL (even though I don't think the GPL itself mentions this...):

Is making and using multiple copies within one organization or company “distribution”?

No, in that case the organization is just making the copies for itself. As a consequence, a company or other organization can develop a modified version and install that version through its own facilities, without giving the staff permission to release that modified version to outsiders.

However, when the organization transfers copies to other organizations or individuals, that is distribution. In particular, providing copies to contractors for use off-site is distribution.

It seems clear to me that this exception is not intended to allow circumvention of the GPL.

[pichy]

Further Sting SF 2.0 is for people and should help in analysis (zugzwangs, difficult sacrifices).
My work is in progress and I am very happy to see many interesting positions. It helps me.

Now, I can only share a substitute of Sting (without name, my name and source code). It will be only 32bit-exe file without license and any guaranty. Of course, I will wait for feedback.

All my friends who accept these conditions and want to get it and help me please let me know by message box.

BTW
Sting SF 2.0 is 2900+ and works without tricks, parameters etc.

Great now I can solve position like this in a matter of second best move Bf8+
[D]6R1/8/2pB3k/2P4p/5p1q/5P2/4P1K1/8 w - - 0 1

[lech]

Joona, the door is there!

But he just made a public offer.

You, it is ONLY for my friends, for all who feel chess like me.

[zullil]

Further Sting SF 2.0 is for people and should help in analysis (zugzwangs, difficult sacrifices).
My work is in progress and I am very happy to see many interesting positions. It helps me.

Now, I can only share a substitute of Sting (without name, my name and source code). It will be only 32bit-exe file without license and any guaranty. Of course, I will wait for feedback.

All my friends who accept these conditions and want to get it and help me please let me know by message box.

BTW
Sting SF 2.0 is 2900+ and works without tricks, parameters etc.

Great now I can solve position like this in a matter of second best move Bf8+
[D]6R1/8/2pB3k/2P4p/5p1q/5P2/4P1K1/8 w - - 0 1

You do not need Sting to solve this position.

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20/40  00:02  12403859 4169364  +0.00 Bf8+ Kh7 Rg7+ Kh8 Be7 Qe1 Bf6 Qxe2+ Kh1 Qc4 Ba1 h4 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Bf6
21/40  00:03  13545490 4231643  +0.00 Bf8+ Kh7 Rg7+ Kh8 Be7 Qe1 Bf6 Qxe2+ Kh1 Qc4 Ba1 h4 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Bf6
22/40  00:03  15733229 4378855  +0.00 Bf8+ Kh7 Rg7+ Kh8 Be7 Qe1 Bf6 Qxe2+ Kh1 Qc4 Ba1 h4 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Bf6
23/41  00:04  18749634 4533277  +0.00 Bf8+ Kh7 Rg7+ Kh8 Be7 Qe1 Bf6 Qxe2+ Kh1 Qc4 Ba1 h4 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Bf6
24/43  00:04  23448018 4761018  +0.00 Bf8+ Kh7 Rg7+ Kh8 Be7 Qe1 Bf6 Qxe2+ Kh1 Qc4 Ba1 h4 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Bf6
25/44  00:06  30736828 5029754  +0.00 Bf8+ Kh7 Rg7+ Kh8 Be7 Qe1 Bf6 Qxe2+ Kh1 Qc4 Ba1 h4 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Bf6
26/49  00:07  39498390 5245470  +0.00 Bf8+ Kh7 Rg7+ Kh8 Be7 Qe1 Bf6 Qxe2+ Kh1 Qc4 Ba1 h4 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Bf6
27/49  00:09  51878905 5436330  +0.00 Bf8+ Kh7 Rg7+ Kh8 Be7 Qe1 Bf6 Qxe2+ Kh1 Qc4 Ba1 h4 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Bf6
28/51+ 00:13  78368975 5945150  +0.08 Bf8+ Kh7 Rg7+ Kh8 Be7 Qe1 Bf6 Qxe2+ Kh1 Qc4 Ba1 h4 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Bf6
28/52+ 00:14  86743828 5847241  +0.17 Bf8+ Kh7 Rg7+ Kh8 Be7 Qe1 Bf6 Qxe2+ Kh1 Qc4 Ba1 h4 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Bf6
28/52+ 00:16  95879240 5750569  +0.30 Bf8+ Kh7 Rg7+ Kh8 Be7 Qe1 Bf6 Qxe2+ Kh1 Qc4 Ba1 h4 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Bf6
28/57+ 00:19 111198485 5814603  +0.49 Bf8+ Kh7 Rg7+ Kh8 Be7 Qe1 Bf6 Qxe2+ Kh1 Qc4 Ba1 h4 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Bf6
28/62+ 00:21 129746303 5905881  +0.77 Bf8+ Kh7 Rg7+ Kh8 Be7 Qe1 Bf6 Qxe2+ Kh1 Qc4 Ba1 h4 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Bf6
28/68+ 00:25 152138482 5926011  +1.20 Bf8+ Kh7 Rg7+ Kh8 Be7 Qe1 Bf6 Qxe2+ Kh1 Qc4 Ba1 h4 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Bf6
28/68+ 00:29 173490624 5839862  +1.83 Bf8+ Kh7 Rg7+ Kh8 Be7 Qe1 Bf6 Qxe2+ Kh1 Qc4 Ba1 h4 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Bf6
28/71+ 00:35 210564390 5880701  +2.79 Bf8+ Kh7 Rg7+ Kh8 Be7 Qe1 Bf6 Qxe2+ Kh1 Qc4 Ba1 h4 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Bf6
28/71+ 00:42 253203652 5954370  +4.22 Bf8+ Kh7 Rg7+ Kh8 Be7 Qe1 Bf6 Qxe2+ Kh1 Qc4 Ba1 h4 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Bf6
28/72+ 00:53 312331430 5840590  +6.36 Bf8+ Kh7 Rg7+ Kh8 Be7 Qe1 Bf6 Qxe2+ Kh1 Qc4 Ba1 h4 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Ba1 h3 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Ba1 h2 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qh6 Rg6+ Kh7 Rxh6+ Kxh6 Kxh2 Kg5 Bf2 Kh6 Kh3 Kg5 Bd4 Kh5 Be5 Kg5 Bd6 Kf5 Kh4 Ke6 Kg4 Kd5 Kxf4 Kd4 Kf5 Kd5 Kg4 Ke6 Kg5 Kd7 f4 Kd8 f5 Ke8 Kg4 Kf7 Be5 Ke8 f6 Kf8 Bc3 Kf7 Kf3 Ke6 Ke4 Kf7 Ke5 Kf8 Kd6 Kf7 Kxc6
28/72  01:01 342974334 5620871  +6.40 Bf8+ Kh7 Rg7+ Kh8 Be7 Qe1 Bf6 Qxe2+ Kh1 Qc4 Ba1 h4 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Ba1 h3 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Ba1 h2 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qh6 Rg6+ Kh7 Rxh6+ Kxh6 Kxh2 Kg5 Bf2 Kh6 Kh3 Kg5 Be1 Kf5 Bh4 Ke6 Kg4 Ke5 Bf2 Ke6 Kxf4 Kf6 Ke4 Kg5 f4+ Kf6 Bh4+ Kg7 Ke5 Kg6 Bf2 Kf7 Kd6 Kf6 Bd4+ Kg6 Ke5 Kf7 Bf2 Kg6 Bh4 Kh7 Be1 Kg7 Kd6 Kf7 Kxc6 Ke6 Bf2 Kf5 Kd5 Kxf4 c6
29/72  01:02 346828688 5564929  +6.40 Bf8+ Kh7 Rg7+ Kh8 Be7 Qe1 Bf6 Qxe2+ Kh1 Qc4 Ba1 h4 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Ba1 h3 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Ba1 h2 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qh6 Rg6+ Kh7 Rxh6+ Kxh6 Kxh2 Kg5 Bf2 Kg6 Kh3 Kf7 Bd4 Ke6 Bg1 Kf5 Kh4 Kf6 Kg4 Ke5 Bf2 Kf6 Kxf4 Ke6 Kg4 Ke5 Kg3 Kf5 Bg1 Ke5 Kg4 Kf6 Bf2 Kf7 Kg5 Ke6 Kg4
30/72  01:05 362596089 5531342  +6.40 Bf8+ Kh7 Rg7+ Kh8 Be7 Qe1 Bf6 Qxe2+ Kh1 Qc4 Ba1 h4 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Ba1 h3 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Ba1 h2 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qh6 Rg6+ Kh7 Rxh6+ Kxh6 Kxh2 Kg5 Bf2 Kg6 Kh3 Kf7 Bd4 Ke6 Bg1 Kf5 Bd4 Kg5 Bf2 Kf5 Kh4 Kf6 Kg4 Ke5 Bg1 Ke6 Kxf4 Kd5 Bf2 Ke6 Kg4 Ke5 Kg3 Kf5 Bg1 Ke5 Kg4 Kf6 Bf2 Kf7 Kg5 Ke6 Kg4
31/72  01:10 389455956 5498149  +6.40 Bf8+ Kh7 Rg7+ Kh8 Be7 Qe1 Bf6 Qxe2+ Kh1 Qc4 Ba1 h4 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Ba1 h3 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Ba1 h2 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qh6 Rg6+ Kh7 Rxh6+ Kxh6 Kxh2 Kg5 Bf2 Kh6 Kh3 Kg5 Be1 Kf5 Bh4 Ke6 Kg4 Ke5 Bf2 Ke6 Kxf4 Kf6 Ke4 Ke7 Ke5 Kd7 f4 Ke7 Bg1 Kf7 Kd6 Kf6 Kxc6 Ke6 Bf2 Kf5 Kd5 Kxf4 c6
32/72  01:17 426631452 5477710  +6.40 Bf8+ Kh7 Rg7+ Kh8 Be7 Qe1 Bf6 Qxe2+ Kh1 Qc4 Ba1 h4 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Ba1 h3 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Ba1 h2 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qh6 Rg6+ Kh7 Rxh6+ Kxh6 Kxh2 Kg5 Bf2 Kh6 Kh3 Kg5 Be1 Kf5 Bh4 Ke6 Kg4 Ke5 Bf2 Ke6 Kxf4 Kf6 Ke4 Kg5 f4+ Kh6 Bd4 Kg6 Ke5 Kg7 Kd6+ Kf7 Kxc6 Ke6 Bf2 Kf5 Kd5 Kxf4 c6
33/72  01:27 478074502 5449881  +6.40 Bf8+ Kh7 Rg7+ Kh8 Be7 Qe1 Bf6 Qxe2+ Kh1 Qc4 Ba1 h4 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Ba1 h3 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Ba1 h2 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qh6 Rg6+ Kh7 Rxh6+ Kxh6 Kxh2 Kg5 Bf2 Kh6 Kh3 Kg5 Be1 Kf5 Bc3 Kg5 Be5 Kf5 Bd4 Kg5 Bf2 Kf5 Bh4 Ke6 Kg4 Ke5 Bf2 Ke6 Kxf4 Kf6 Ke4 Ke7 Ke5 Kd7 Bd4 Ke7 Kf4 Kf7 Be5 Ke6 Ke4 Kd7 Bf6 Kc8 f4 Kc7 Be7 Kd7 Bh4 Kc8 Ke5 Kc7 f5 Kb8 Be1
34/72  01:41 550166914 5428868  +6.40 Bf8+ Kh7 Rg7+ Kh8 Be7 Qe1 Bf6 Qxe2+ Kh1 Qc4 Ba1 h4 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Ba1 h3 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Ba1 h2 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qh6 Rg6+ Kh7 Rxh6+ Kxh6 Kxh2 Kg5 Bf2 Kh6 Kh3 Kg5 Be1 Kf5 Bh4 Ke6 Kg4 Ke5 Bf2 Ke6 Kxf4 Kf6 Ke4 Ke7 Ke5 Kd7 f4 Ke7 Bh4+ Kf7 Be1 Kg7 Kd6 Kf7 Kxc6 Ke6 Bf2 Kf5 Kd5 Kxf4 c6
35/72  02:06 680353782 5366073  +6.42 Bf8+ Kh7 Rg7+ Kh8 Be7 Qe1 Bf6 Qxe2+ Kh1 Qc4 Ba1 h4 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Ba1 h3 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Ba1 h2 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qh6 Rg6+ Kh7 Rxh6+ Kxh6 Kxh2 Kg5 Bf2 Kh6 Kh3 Kg5 Be1 Kf5 Bh4 Ke6 Kg4 Ke5 Bf2 Ke6 Kxf4 Kf6 Ke4 Ke7 Ke5 Kd7 Bh4 Kc8 f4 Kc7 f5 Kd7 f6 Ke8 Kd6 Kf8 Kxc6 Kf7 Kd5
36/72  02:31 825207490 5455412  +6.42 Bf8+ Kh7 Rg7+ Kh8 Be7 Qe1 Bf6 Qxe2+ Kh1 Qc4 Ba1 h4 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Ba1 h3 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Ba1 h2 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qh6 Rg6+ Kh7 Rxh6+ Kxh6 Kxh2 Kg5 Bf2 Kh6 Kh3 Kg5 Be1 Kf5 Bh4 Ke6 Kg4 Ke5 Bf2 Ke6 Kxf4 Kf6 Ke4 Kf7 f4 Ke6 f5+ Ke7 Bg3 Kf6 Bh4+ Kg7 f6+ Kf8 Kf3 Kf7 Kf4 Kg6 Ke5 Kh6 Ke4 Kg6 Ke5
37/72  02:57 992003294 5585289  +6.42 Bf8+ Kh7 Rg7+ Kh8 Be7 Qe1 Bf6 Qxe2+ Kh1 Qc4 Ba1 h4 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Ba1 h3 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Ba1 h2 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qh6 Rg6+ Kh7 Rxh6+ Kxh6 Kxh2 Kg5 Bf2 Kh6 Kh3 Kg5 Be1 Kf5 Bh4 Ke6 Kg4 Ke5 Bf2 Ke6 Kxf4 Kf6 Ke4 Kg6 f4 Kg7 Bd4+ Kf7 Kf3 Ke7 Bf2 Kf6 Kg4 Kg6 f5+ Kf6 Bg1 Ke7 Bd4 Ke8 Kg5 Ke7 Bg1 Ke8 f6 Kf7 Be3 Ke8 Bf2 Kf7 Bh4 Kf8 Kf4 Ke8 Ke5 Kf7 Kf5 Kg8 Ke6 Kf8 f7 Kg7 Ke7
38/78+ 03:47 1308053394 5754592  +6.82 Bf8+ Kh7 Rg7+ Kh8 Be7 Qe1 Bf6 Qxe2+ Kh1 Qc4 Ba1 h4 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Ba1 h3 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Ba1 h2 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qh6 Rg6+ Kh7 Rxh6+ Kxh6 Kxh2 Kg5 Bf2 Kh6 Kh3 Kg5 Be1 Kf5 Bh4 Ke6 Kg4 Ke5 Bf2 Ke6 Kxf4 Kf6 Ke4 Kg6 f4 Kh6 Bd4 Kg6 Be3 Kf7 f5 Kg7 Bd4+ Kf7 Be5 Ke7 f6+ Ke6 Kf3 Kf7 Bd4 Ke6 Ke4 Kf7 Kf5 Kf8 Bf2 Ke8 Kg5 Kf7 Bh4 Kf8 Kf4 Ke8 Ke5 Kf7 Kf5 Kg8 Ke6 Kf8 f7 Kg7 Ke7
38/85+ 04:48 1726352655 5989746  +7.21 Bf8+ Kh7 Rg7+ Kh8 Be7 Qe1 Bf6 Qxe2+ Kh1 Qc4 Ba1 h4 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Ba1 h3 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Ba1 h2 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qh6 Rg6+ Kh7 Rxh6+ Kxh6 Kxh2 Kg5 Bf2 Kh6 Kh3 Kg5 Be1 Kf5 Bh4 Ke6 Kg4 Kd5 Be7 Ke5 Kh3 Kf5 Bd6 Kg5 Bc7 Kf5 Kh4 Kg6 Kg4 Kf6 Kxf4 Ke6 Ke4 Kd7 Be5 Ke7 f4 Ke6 Bd6 Kf7 f5 Kf6 Kf4 Kg7 Kg5 Kf7 f6 Ke6 Bg3 Kf7 Bf2 Ke6 Bg1 Kf7 Be3 Ke8 Bf2 Kf7 Bd4 Ke8 Be5 Kf7 Kf5 Kg8 Bd6 Kf7 Ke5 Kg6 Ke6 Kh6 f7
38/88+ 07:45 3060527368 6576065  +7.81 Bf8+ Kh7 Rg7+ Kh8 Be7 Qe1 Bf6 Qxe2+ Kh1 Qc4 Ba1 h4 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Ba1 h3 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qc4 Ba1 h2 Bf6 Qe6 Bd4 Qh6 Rg6+ Kh7 Rxh6+ Kxh6 Kxh2 Kg5 Bf2 Kh6 Kh3 Kg5 Be1 Kf5 Bh4 Ke6 Kg4 Ke5 Bf2 Kf6 Kxf4 Kg6 Ke4 Kh5 Be1 Kg6 Ke5 Kg5 Bf2 Kh6 Bd4 Kg5 Bc3 Kh5 Bd2 Kg6 Ke6 Kg7 Bc3+ Kg8 Be5 Kf8 Kd6 Kf7 Bd4 Kg8 f4 Kh7 Kd7 Kh6 Kxc6 Kg6 Be5 Kh5 Bd4 Kg6

[lech]

Always, when I read Stockfish by Marco Costalba, ....
I see Stockfish by nn, Marco Costalba, ...
NN means all who worked for Sf's code and for soldiers like Louis Z.

[gerold]

Always, when I read Stockfish by Marco Costalba, ....
I see Stockfish by nn, Marco Costalba, ...
NN means all who worked for Sf's code and for soldiers like Louis Z.

Go for it. One more clone piled on should not matter.