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Christopher Conkie
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Re: a Telltale position

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[d]1r3r2/q5k1/4p1n1/1bPpPp1p/pPpR1Pp1/P1B1Q3/2B3PP/3R2K1 w - - 0 1

RobboLito 0085g3 x32:
1/4 00:00 46 0 -1.63 Bxf5 Rxf5
1/8 00:00 75 0 -0.18 Rxd5 exd5 e6+ Kg8 Rxd5
1/8 00:00 92 0 +0.97 R4d2
2/11 00:00 344 0 +0.87 R4d2 Bc6
3/11 00:00 635 0 +0.86 R4d2 Bc6 g3 Qd7
4/11 00:00 950 0 +0.85 R4d2 Bc6 g3 h4
5/13 00:00 1,620 0 +0.75 R4d2 Bc6 g3 h4 Bd4 Qd7


Houdini_w32_2CPU:
1/4 00:00 46 0 -1.26 Bxf5 Rxf5
1/8 00:00 75 0 -0.11 Rxd5 exd5 e6+ Kg8 Rxd5
1/8 00:00 100 0 +0.67 R4d2
2/11 00:00 452 7,000 +0.58 R4d2 Bc6
3/11 00:00 750 11,000 +0.56 R4d2 Bc6 g3 Qd7
4/11 00:00 1,072 14,000 +0.56 R4d2 Bc6 g3 h4
5/13 00:00 1,768 22,000 +0.47 R4d2 Bc6 g3 h4 Bd4 Qd7

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Christopher Conkie
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Re: a Telltale position

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[d]7r/2k2p2/q1b1p1p1/p2pP1P1/n2P1P2/Q1p2B2/P1P2N1r/1RR2K2 w - - 0 44

RobboLito 0085g3 x32:
1/7 00:00 28 0 -1.36 Be2 Rxf2+ Kxf2 Rh2+ Kg3 Qxe2
1/15 00:00 123 0 +0.33 Nd3 Kc8 Qd6
2/15 00:00 245 0 +0.33 Nd3 Kc8 Qd6
3/15 00:00 534 0 -0.04 Nd3 Kc8 Bg2
4/21 00:00 1,765 0 0.00 Nd3 Kc8 Bg2 Qc4
5/21 00:00 2,872 0 -0.07 Nd3 Kc8 Bg2 Qc4 Qe7 Nb2
5/21 00:00 4,649 0 +1.70 Be2 Qa8 Qe7+ Kc8 Qxf7 Bd7 Qxg6 Nb2
6/21 00:00 5,433 0 +1.70 Be2 Qa8 Qe7+ Kc8 Qxf7 Bd7 Qxg6 Nb2
7/21 00:00 6,818 0 +1.67 Be2 Qa8 Qe7+ Kc8 Qxf7 Bd7 Qxg6 Nb2 Qf7 Qb7
8/21+ 00:00 8,066 0 +1.75 Be2 Qa8 Qe7+ Kc8 Qxf7 Bd7 Qxg6 Nb2 Qf7 Qb7
8/21+ 00:00 11,849 740,000 +1.83 Be2 Qa8 Qe7+ Kc8 Qxf7 Bd7 Qxg6 Nb2 Ng4 Rh1+ Kf2

Houdini_w32_2CPU:
1/7 00:00 28 0 -1.00 Be2 Rxf2+ Kxf2 Rh2+ Kg3 Qxe2
1/15 00:00 116 1,000 +0.20 Nd3 Kc8 Qd6
2/15 00:00 242 3,000 +0.20 Nd3 Kc8 Qd6
3/15 00:00 576 7,000 -0.01 Nd3 Kc8 Bg2
4/18 00:00 1,695 20,000 0.00 Nd3 Kc8 Bg2 Qc4
5/18 00:00 2,836 34,000 -0.03 Nd3 Kc8 Bg2 Qc4 Qe7 Nb2
5/18 00:00 4,537 53,000 +1.35 Be2 Qa8 Qe7+ Kc8 Qxf7 Bd7 Qxg6 Nb2
6/18 00:00 5,372 62,000 +1.35 Be2 Qa8 Qe7+ Kc8 Qxf7 Bd7 Qxg6 Nb2
7/18 00:00 6,867 78,000 +1.32 Be2 Qa8 Qe7+ Kc8 Qxf7 Bd7 Qxg6 Nb2 Qf7 Qb7
8/18+ 00:00 8,115 91,000 +1.41 Be2 Qa8 Qe7+ Kc8 Qxf7 Bd7 Qxg6 Nb2 Qf7 Qb7
8/21+ 00:00 12,638 108,000 +1.59 Be2 Qa8 Qe7+ Kc8 Qxf7 Bd7 Qxg6 Nb2 Ng4 Rh1+ Kf2

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Christopher Conkie
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Re: a Telltale position

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[d]r3k2r/pp1n1p1p/2p3p1/3p1b2/1q1Pn1P1/2N1PQ1P/PP2NP2/2KR1B1R b - - 0 1

RobboLito 0085g3 x32:
1/8 00:00 95 0 +0.15 Nxc3 Nxc3
1/8 00:00 242 0 +0.46 Ng5
2/8 00:00 330 0 +0.37 Ng5 Qf4
3/12 00:00 1,117 0 +0.31 Ng5 Qf4 Ne6
4/12 00:00 1,530 0 +0.25 Ng5 Qf4 Ne6 Qh6
5/12 00:00 2,205 0 -0.03 Ng5 Qf4 Ne6 Qh6 Be4 Nxe4 dxe4
6/13 00:00 3,199 0 -0.03 Ng5 Qf4 Ne6 Qh6 Be4 Nxe4 dxe4
7/17 00:00 9,927 661,000 -0.38 Ng5 Qf4 Be4 Nxe4 Nxe4 Kb1 g5 Qf5
8/21 00:00 12,813 854,000 -0.38 Ng5 Qf4 Be4 Nxe4 Nxe4 Kb1 Nd2+ Ka1 Nc4 b3

Houdini_w32_2CPU:
1/8 00:00 98 0 +0.09 Nxc3 Nxc3
1/8 00:00 248 0 +0.29 Ng5
2/8 00:00 336 0 +0.23 Ng5 Qf4
3/13 00:00 1,131 0 +0.19 Ng5 Qf4 Ne6
4/13 00:00 1,547 96,000 +0.15 Ng5 Qf4 Ne6 Qh6
5/13 00:00 2,225 139,000 -0.01 Ng5 Qf4 Ne6 Qh6 Be4 Nxe4 dxe4
6/13 00:00 3,215 200,000 -0.01 Ng5 Qf4 Ne6 Qh6 Be4 Nxe4 dxe4
7/17 00:00 8,904 556,000 -0.24 Ng5 Qf4 Be4 Nxe4 Nxe4 Kb1 g5 Qf5
8/17 00:00 11,791 736,000 -0.24 Ng5 Qf4 Be4 Nxe4 Nxe4 Kb1 Nd2+ Ka1 Nc4 b3

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Re: a Telltale position

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[d]r2qrb1k/1p1b2p1/p2ppn1p/8/3NP3/1BN5/PPP3QP/1K3RR1 w - - 0 1

RobboLito 0085g3 x32:
1/4 00:00 46 0 -1.77 Rxf6 Qxf6
1/5 00:00 60 0 -0.56 e5 dxe5
1/5 00:00 69 0 -0.26 Nf3
1/5 00:00 78 0 -0.13 Nce2
1/5 00:00 84 0 -0.09 Bc4
1/5 00:00 88 0 0.00 h4


Houdini_w32_2CPU:
1/4 00:00 46 0 -1.18 Rxf6 Qxf6
1/5 00:00 60 0 -0.20 e5 dxe5
1/5 00:00 69 0 0.00 Nf3
1/5 00:00 78 0 +0.06 Nce2
1/5 00:00 84 0 +0.09 Bc4
1/5 00:00 88 0 +0.14 h4

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Re: a Telltale position

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[d]1kb5/1p1pN1K1/pP1P4/P7/8/8/8/3b4 w - - 17 9

RobboLito 0085g3 x32:
1/3 00:00 16 0 -2.99 Nxc8 Kxc8
1/3 00:00 17 0 -2.71 Kh8
1/4 00:00 22 0 -2.52 Kg8
1/5 00:00 26 0 -2.34 Kf8 Bb3
1/5 00:00 43 1,000 -2.21 Kf7 Bh5+ Kf6
1/5 00:00 56 1,000 -2.19 Kg6 Bb3 Kf6
1/5 00:00 62 2,000 -2.11 Kf6 Bh5
2/5 00:00 88 2,000 -2.18 Kf6 Bf3
3/6 00:00 163 5,000 -2.10 Kf6 Bf3 Ke5
4/8 00:00 276 8,000 -2.07 Kf6 Bf3 Ke5 Bc6 Nxc6+ bxc6
5/8 00:00 562 18,000 -2.20 Kf6 Bg4 Ke5 Be6 Ng6
6/9 00:00 913 28,000 -2.08 Kf6 Bg4 Ke5 Be6 Ng6 Bf7
7/10 00:00 1,542 48,000 -2.14 Kg6 Bb3 Kf6 Be6 Ke5 Bf7 Nf5
8/10 00:00 2,187 66,000 -2.08 Kg6 Bb3 Kf6 Bc4 Ke5 Be6 Ng6 Bf7
9/11 00:00 2,981 87,000 -2.14 Kg6 Bb3 Kf6 Bc4 Ke5 Bf7 Nf5 Be6 Ne7 Bf7


Houdini_w32_2CPU:
1/3 00:00 16 0 -2.80 Nxc8 Kxc8
1/3 00:00 17 0 -2.48 Kh8
1/4 00:00 21 0 -2.26 Kg8
1/5 00:00 25 0 -2.07 Kf8 Bb3
1/5 00:00 40 0 -1.92 Kf7 Bh5+ Kf6
1/5 00:00 51 0 -1.89 Kg6 Bb3 Kf6
1/5 00:00 57 0 -1.81 Kf6 Bh5
2/5 00:00 80 0 -1.89 Kf6 Bf3
3/6 00:00 155 0 -1.80 Kf6 Bf3 Ke5
4/8 00:00 267 0 -1.76 Kf6 Bf3 Ke5 Bc6 Nxc6+ bxc6
5/8 00:00 549 0 -1.91 Kf6 Bg4 Ke5 Be6 Ng6
6/9 00:00 965 0 -1.77 Kf6 Bg4 Ke5 Be6 Ng6 Bf7
7/10 00:00 1,561 0 -1.83 Kg6 Bb3 Kf6 Be6 Ke5 Bf7 Nf5
8/10 00:00 2,244 0 -1.77 Kg6 Bb3 Kf6 Bc4 Ke5 Be6 Ng6 Bf7
9/11 00:00 3,136 0 -1.83 Kg6 Bb3 Kf6 Bc4 Ke5 Bf7 Nf5 Be6 Ne7 Bf7

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Re: a Telltale position

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[d]r3nk2/2qb1p2/3ppPp1/p3b2p/1p2PN1Q/1B1R4/PPP3PP/5RK1 b - - 0 1

RobboLito 0085g3 x32:
1/7 00:00 66 0 -1.70 Bxf4 Qxf4 Qc5+ Kh1
1/18 00:00 176 0 -1.25 Nxf6 Nxg6+ fxg6 Rxf6+ Kg7
1/18 00:00 202 0 -0.42 Bxb2
1/18 00:00 243 0 -0.27 Qa7+ Kh1 Nxf6
1/18 00:00 262 0 -0.11 Qb6+ Kh1 Nxf6
1/18 00:00 295 0 -0.10 Qc5+ Qf2 Qxf2+ Rxf2 Nxf6
2/18 00:00 348 0 -0.10 Qc5+ Qf2 Qxf2+ Rxf2 Nxf6
3/18 00:00 930 0 -0.10 Qc5+ Qf2 Qxf2+ Rxf2 Nxf6
3/18 00:00 1,737 0 -0.08 Rc8 Ne2 Qc5+ Qf2 Qxf2+ Kxf2 Nxf6
3/18 00:00 4,546 0 +0.15 a4 Bxe6 Qc5+ Kh1 Bxe6 Nxe6+ fxe6
4/18 00:00 4,858 0 +0.15 a4 Bxe6 Qc5+ Kh1 Bxe6 Nxe6+ fxe6

Houdini_w32_2CPU:
1/7 00:00 65 0 -1.35 Bxf4 Qxf4 Qc5+ Kh1
1/18 00:00 183 0 -0.91 Nxf6 Nxg6+ fxg6 Rxf6+ Kg7
1/18 00:00 209 0 -0.26 Bxb2
1/18 00:00 250 0 -0.16 Qa7+ Kh1 Nxf6
1/18 00:00 269 0 -0.06 Qb6+ Kh1 Nxf6
1/18 00:00 303 0 -0.05 Qc5+ Qf2 Qxf2+ Rxf2 Nxf6
2/18 00:00 357 10,000 -0.05 Qc5+ Qf2 Qxf2+ Rxf2 Nxf6
3/18 00:00 924 17,000 -0.05 Qc5+ Qf2 Qxf2+ Rxf2 Nxf6
3/18 00:00 1,797 33,000 -0.05 Rc8 Ne2 Qc5+ Qf2 Qxf2+ Kxf2 Nxf6
3/18 00:00 4,848 83,000 +0.09 a4 Bxe6 Qc5+ Kh1 Bxe6 Nxe6+ fxe6
4/18 00:00 5,215 88,000 +0.09 a4 Bxe6 Qc5+ Kh1 Bxe6 Nxe6+ fxe6

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Christopher Conkie
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Re: a Telltale position

Post by Christopher Conkie »

I know you are watching Robert. Are you still trying to say that you did not use Robbolito as the code base for Houdini?

These are not similar ideas everyone can see here in these positions.

These two engines use the SAME code base.

Thats a FACT.

[d]4q1kr/p6p/1prQPppB/4n3/4P3/2P5/PP2B2P/R5K1 w - - 0 1

RobboLito 0085g3 x32:
1/3 00:00 53 0 -5.09 Qxc6 Qxc6
1/7 00:00 82 0 -4.28 Qf8+ Qxf8 Bxf8 Kxf8
1/7 00:00 106 0 -0.77 Qd5 Rxe6
1/7 00:00 124 0 -0.11 Qa3 Rxe6 Qxa7
2/7 00:00 218 0 -0.11 Qa3 Rxe6 Qxa7
3/11 00:00 616 0 -0.32 Qa3 Rxe6 Qxa7 Qe7
4/16 00:00 1,567 0 -0.58 Qa3 Rxe6 Qxa7 Nf7 Be3 Rxe4
5/16 00:00 2,158 0 -0.58 Qa3 Rxe6 Qxa7 Nf7 Be3 Rxe4
6/17 00:00 4,628 0 -0.87 Qa3 Rxe6 Qxa7 Nf7 Bd2 Rxe4 Bf3


Houdini_w32_2CPU:
1/3 00:00 53 0 -5.10 Qxc6 Qxc6
1/7 00:00 82 0 -4.26 Qf8+ Qxf8 Bxf8 Kxf8
1/7 00:00 105 0 -0.49 Qd5 Rxe6
1/7 00:00 121 0 -0.06 Qa3 Rxe6 Qxa7
2/7 00:00 216 0 -0.06 Qa3 Rxe6 Qxa7
3/11 00:00 632 0 -0.20 Qa3 Rxe6 Qxa7 Qe7
4/14 00:00 1,569 0 -0.36 Qa3 Rxe6 Qxa7 Nf7 Be3 Rxe4
5/14 00:00 2,212 0 -0.36 Qa3 Rxe6 Qxa7 Nf7 Be3 Rxe4
6/16 00:00 4,228 0 -0.57 Qa3 Rxe6 Qxa7 Nf7 Bd2 Rxe4 Bf3

:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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rbarreira
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Re: a Telltale position

Post by rbarreira »

This does seem like strong evidence.
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frcha
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Re: a Telltale position

Post by frcha »

So is it confirmed then, irrefutable?

Houdini is multi-core optimized robo?
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Re: a Telltale position

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Christopher Conkie wrote:I know you are watching Robert. Are you still trying to say that you did not use Robbolito as the code base for Houdini?

These are not similar ideas everyone can see here in these positions.

These two engines use the SAME code base.

Thats a FACT.

[d]4q1kr/p6p/1prQPppB/4n3/4P3/2P5/PP2B2P/R5K1 w - - 0 1

RobboLito 0085g3 x32:
1/3 00:00 53 0 -5.09 Qxc6 Qxc6
1/7 00:00 82 0 -4.28 Qf8+ Qxf8 Bxf8 Kxf8
1/7 00:00 106 0 -0.77 Qd5 Rxe6
1/7 00:00 124 0 -0.11 Qa3 Rxe6 Qxa7
2/7 00:00 218 0 -0.11 Qa3 Rxe6 Qxa7
3/11 00:00 616 0 -0.32 Qa3 Rxe6 Qxa7 Qe7
4/16 00:00 1,567 0 -0.58 Qa3 Rxe6 Qxa7 Nf7 Be3 Rxe4
5/16 00:00 2,158 0 -0.58 Qa3 Rxe6 Qxa7 Nf7 Be3 Rxe4
6/17 00:00 4,628 0 -0.87 Qa3 Rxe6 Qxa7 Nf7 Bd2 Rxe4 Bf3


Houdini_w32_2CPU:
1/3 00:00 53 0 -5.10 Qxc6 Qxc6
1/7 00:00 82 0 -4.26 Qf8+ Qxf8 Bxf8 Kxf8
1/7 00:00 105 0 -0.49 Qd5 Rxe6
1/7 00:00 121 0 -0.06 Qa3 Rxe6 Qxa7
2/7 00:00 216 0 -0.06 Qa3 Rxe6 Qxa7
3/11 00:00 632 0 -0.20 Qa3 Rxe6 Qxa7 Qe7
4/14 00:00 1,569 0 -0.36 Qa3 Rxe6 Qxa7 Nf7 Be3 Rxe4
5/14 00:00 2,212 0 -0.36 Qa3 Rxe6 Qxa7 Nf7 Be3 Rxe4
6/16 00:00 4,228 0 -0.57 Qa3 Rxe6 Qxa7 Nf7 Bd2 Rxe4 Bf3

:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
For contrast, here's what Stockfish-2.0.1 (1 thread) gives:

Code: Select all

Searching: 4q1kr/p6p/1prQPppB/4n3/4P3/2P5/PP2B2P/R5K1 w - -
infinite: 0 ponder: 0 time: 0 increment: 0 moves to go: 0
 1     +0.57   00:00      666 Qa3 
 2     +0.53   00:00      743 Qa3 Rc7 
 3     +0.36   00:00     1067 Qa3 a5 e7 Re6 
 4     -0.16   00:00     1957 Qa3 Rxe6 Qxa7 Nf7 Be3 Rxe4 
 5     -0.16   00:00     2409 Qa3 Rxe6 Qxa7 Nf7 Be3 Rxe4 
 6  <  -0.44   00&#58;00     2903 Qa3 Rxe6 Qxa7 Nf7 Be3 Rxe4 
 6  <  -0.73   00&#58;00     3333 Qa3 Rxe6 Qxa7 Nf7 Be3 Rxe4 
 6  >  +0.14   00&#58;00     4136 Qa3 Rxe6 Qxa7 Nf7 Bc4 Rxe4 Qc7 
 6  >  +0.40   00&#58;00     6345 Qa3 Rxe6 Qxa7 Nf7 Bc4 Rxe4 Bd5 
 6     +0.57   00&#58;00     6804 Qa3 Rxe6 Qxa7 Nf7 Bc4 Rxe4 Bd5 Rg4+ Kh1 

Nodes&#58; 6865
Time &#40;ms&#41;&#58; 618
Nodes/second&#58; 11108
Best move&#58; Qa3
Ponder move&#58; Rxe6
And Scorpio-2.7:

Code: Select all

setboard 4q1kr/p6p/1prQPppB/4n3/4P3/2P5/PP2B2P/R5K1 w - -
sd=6
go
&#91;sd = 6 , hply = 0&#93;
2 -9 1 301  Qd6-a3 g6-g5
2 -9 1 425  Qd6-a3 g6-g5
3 -10 1 1270  Qd6-a3 a7-a6 Ra1-f1 Rc6xe6 Be2xa6
3 -10 1 1502  Qd6-a3 a7-a6 Ra1-f1 Rc6xe6 Be2xa6
4 -52 1 2787  Qd6-a3 Rc6xe6 Qa3xa7 Qe8-e7
4 -52 2 3259  Qd6-a3 Rc6xe6 Qa3xa7 Qe8-e7
5 -74 2 3631  Qd6-a3
5 -114 2 4540  Qd6-a3
5 -112 2 5525  Qd6-a3 Rc6xe6 Qa3xa7 Ne5-f7 Bh6-f4 Re6xe4
5 -112 2 7735  Qd6-a3 Rc6xe6 Qa3xa7 Ne5-f7 Bh6-f4 Re6xe4
6 -99 2 8692  Qd6-a3
6 -108 2 11119  Qd6-a3 Rc6xe6 Ra1-d1 a7-a5 Bh6-e3 Kg8-g7
6 -62 2 15507  Qd6-d5 Rc6xe6 Ra1-f1 Kg8-f7 Be2-b5 Qe8-e7
6 -62 2 16872  Qd6-d5 Rc6xe6 Ra1-f1 Kg8-f7 Be2-b5 Qe8-e7
nodes = 16872 <60 qnodes> time = 29ms nps = 581793
lazy_eval = 55 splits = 0 badsplits = 0 egbb_probes = 0
move d6d5
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