This is great Carlos. I've been working on a rating list since August
and I am including engines of all strengths. Here is the bottom of my
list. I plan to include as many engines as I can make run on my computer
under Arena 2.01.
Yes, people told me that Arena cannot handle quotes in the engine command line at all. But the sgf trick should work. I just tried it to play "Chess With Different Armies", because you could not even specify that from the command line without a new popup appearing to ask you which armies you want to pit against each other.
So what I did is just start a game of Chess with Different Armies by hand, select FIDE vs Color-bound Clobberers, and then immediately select "File -> Save Game". By giving the name of the save file as an arument, ChessV then plays that variant without problems under WinBoard + PSWBTM.
metax wrote:What is the approximate rating scale for '1700 or lower'?
I know that it is kind of ambiguous. As few tests have been done with low ELO engines (UEL is one of the few testing low ELO UCI engines, Open War and WBEC have done it too), there is no certainty about what engines should be considered 1700 ELO or less. Anyway, when I thought about 1700 ELO, I was thinking about human ELO.
However, based on games against humans, I would estimate ChessMind at 1700-1750 'human Elo'.
In that case, I'd be glad to test ChessMind in the next cycle if you agree.
I think in the CCRL rating scale Jabba would have around 1980-2000 Elo or even more.
Yes, as I said before Jabba is probably too strong for this tournament. I did not know its strenght before testing.
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Adam Hair wrote:This is great Carlos. I've been working on a rating list since August
and I am including engines of all strengths. Here is the bottom of my
list. I plan to include as many engines as I can make run on my computer
under Arena 2.01.
The only engine in this group that gives me problems is Testina2.2. It
loses some on time and sometimes makes illegal moves.
Thanks Adam for this useful information, many of those engines will be tested in the next cycles.
OTOH, I am considering to increase the number of engines to be removed after the cycle ends to 20 (instead of 15) to speed things up. More engines would be tested in this way (new 20 engines.) If someone disagree, let me know your reason.
Thanks for including Myrddin in your tournament. The version you have chosen was rated 1600-1700, so it does fit your tournament's criteria. However, Myrddin is definitely still in development, and the latest version is about 250-300 points stronger than the version in your tournament.
Someday, Myrddin will indeed be forgotten. But hopefully not for a while yet.
Thanks for including Myrddin in your tournament. The version you have chosen was rated 1600-1700, so it does fit your tournament's criteria. However, Myrddin is definitely still in development, and the latest version is about 250-300 points stronger than the version in your tournament.
Someday, Myrddin will indeed be forgotten. But hopefully not for a while yet.
Thanks again!
jm
Hi John,
You are welcome. As I wrote in the first post, Myrddin was one of the first engines that I started testing to find a suitable opponent for me. I used this old version on purpose, sorry. When I decided to run a tournament for testing more low ELO engines, I chose to keep it given that Myrddin 0.081a2 had already played many games.
Myrddin 0.82 would be too strong for this tournament and it looks like this "weaker" version is going to be in the top 10 at the end of the current cycle.
You are welcome. As I wrote in the first post, Myrddin was one of the first engines that I started testing to find a suitable opponent for me. I used this old version on purpose, sorry. When I decided to run a tournament for testing more low ELO engines, I chose to keep it given that Myrddin 0.081a2 had already played many games.
Myrddin 0.82 would be too strong for this tournament and it looks like this "weaker" version is going to be in the top 10 at the end of the current cycle.
I don't think that Myrddin will be forgotten.
Regards,
Carlos
Thanks for the kind words. Yes, the most recent public release is about 300 ELO stronger than 0.81, so way too strong for this tournament. I've had a few people say that they enjoy playing it OTB, which is very nice to hear. It's also very stable (so far) according to various tournament directors like yourself.
Roce is a nice engine to play with and as you say is doing well in this tournament. I think Roce will finish at least in the top 10 if not in the top 5.
Regards,
Carlos
PS: I am thinking about testing a human like chess engine around 1600 - 1700 ELO (meaning that sometimes can make blunders in some positions like any 1600 ELO human could do). First thought was to use a 1600 ELO Delfi, but I have not tested it yet. I like to play against Fritz handicapped for example. Do anyone have experience with a "dumbed down" engine that can be included in this tournament? I think it would be interesting as a reference for rating.