Match Fruit 2.3.1 PPC - DanaSah 3.03 PC

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Fruit 2.3.1 PPC or DanaSah 3.03 PC (10 games 25')

Poll ended at Sat Sep 29, 2007 4:07 am

Fruit win 10-0
0
No votes
Fruit wins by 4 points o more (not 10-0)
3
50%
Fruit wins by less than 4 points
3
50%
5 - 5
0
No votes
DanaSah wins by less than 4 points
0
No votes
DanaSah wins by 4 points o more (not 10-0)
0
No votes
DanaSah win 10-0
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 6

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pedrox
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Re: Match Fruit 2.3.1 PPC - DanaSah 3.03 PC

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1) Test: Fruit 2.3.1 (book varied.bin) - DanaSah 3.03

Surprise, DanaSah is 3 ply or more deep and she gains quite easy the match. On the basis of this result it could consider the ELO of Fruit 2.3.1 in the PPC in 2200 - 2300, which is a deception.

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DanaSah v3.03		111½1101½½	7.5/10	
Fruit 2.3.1 v		000½0010½½	2.5/10
2) Test: Fruit 2.3.1 (book performance.bin) - DanaSah 3.03

Following the advice of Tony I use the book performance.bin and repeat the test. The result is similar but I would say that Fruit play better.

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DanaSah v3.03		0111½011½1	7.0/10
Fruit 2.3.1 p		1000½100½0	3.0/10
3) Test: DanaSah 3.13 - Toga 1.2.1a (book performance.bin) (game 30' finish)

I decide to use last version of my program, DanaSah 3.13. Also I use Toga 1.2.1a (I create remember only 5 points less of ELO in CCRL 40/40 that Fruit 2.3.1). In Pocket PC in matches that have made other people Toga 1.2.1a has been able to defeat to Pocket Fritz2 or Hiarcs 9.6a.

But if DanaSah 3.03 wins easily to Fruit 2.3.1, version 3.13 would have to do it more easily to Toga 1.2.1a. But another surprise arrives here, Toga and DanaSah are tremendously even and the match is decided by the minim.

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Toga 1.2.1a  		½10½0½1011	5.5/10
DanaSah v3.13		½01½1½0100	4.5/10
4) Test: DanaSah 3.13 - Fruit 2.3.1 (book performance.bin)

I want to prove if Toga and Fruit have an equal level and by the result it seems that yes.

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Fruit 2.3.1		  ½½1½½01½10	5.5/10	
DanaSah v3.13		½½0½½10½01	4.5/10
With the two last test I could give a ELO approximated for Fruit and Toga in pocket PC of about 2500-2600.

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Wich it is the good value, 2200-2300 of first time or 2500-2600 of second?

Perhaps this has a little explanation, DanaSah 3.13 has more knowledge (evaluation) that version 3.03 and is perhaps a slower 40% in my computer. Still it continues being deeper but instead of 3 plys for example 2, perhaps danasah 3.03 in this case is superior by search.

You can download the games here http://danasah.googlepages.com/danapc-fruitppc.pgn

Best,

Pedro
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Re: Match Fruit 2.3.1 PPC - DanaSah 3.03 PC

Post by swami »

pedrox wrote:

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Fruit 2.3.1		  ½½1½½01½10	5.5/10	
DanaSah v3.13		½½0½½10½01	4.5/10
YEAH! I Won! :)

whoops that was the later version.I may get a prize,right? :wink:

So,Danasah 3.03 played better than 3.13?

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Re: Match Fruit 2.3.1 PPC - DanaSah 3.03 PC

Post by pedrox »

There is no winner, the bet was with the version 3.03 :D , versión 3.03 was better than version 3.13 (I am going to have to test plus version 3.03 in the PC)

Anyway I will send you a copy of Caligula 0.1 (it is playing in Openwar) to your mail of yahoo.

Best,

Pedro