I finished the LS-ratinglist for several reasons. See:
http://ls-ratinglist.beepworld.de
Stefan
LS-ratinglist is finished...
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Don't use the latest Cutechess for Windows in gauntlets or RR, it's buggy. It works well only in a match of two engines. Use the previous one.pohl4711 wrote:I finished the LS-ratinglist for several reasons. See:
http://ls-ratinglist.beepworld.de
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Sometimes it is best to rest, and perhaps,
back with improved ideas.
Thank you very much for everything done.
Rest and back with force.
Gracias Stefan.
back with improved ideas.
Thank you very much for everything done.
Rest and back with force.
Gracias Stefan.
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If it works well with matches, then I would do the testing as a series of matches. This can be set up in a batch file.Laskos wrote:Don't use the latest Cutechess for Windows in gauntlets or RR, it's buggy. It works well only in a match of two engines. Use the previous one.pohl4711 wrote:I finished the LS-ratinglist for several reasons. See:
http://ls-ratinglist.beepworld.de
Stefan
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Hello Stefan:
I read that results will be online up to 1st of May. Is it possible to maintain them online forever or there is a money reason with the host of the site? Anyway, thank you very much for your time! Things are perceived different after a break.
Regards from Spain.
Ajedrecista.
I am sorry to read this. Some people refer to cutechess-cli 0.5.1 instead of 0.6.0 as a solution, others say direct matches instead RR (this approach needs more effort, I know). Both ideas could save LS rating list.pohl4711 wrote:I finished the LS-ratinglist for several reasons. See:
http://ls-ratinglist.beepworld.de
Stefan
I read that results will be online up to 1st of May. Is it possible to maintain them online forever or there is a money reason with the host of the site? Anyway, thank you very much for your time! Things are perceived different after a break.
Regards from Spain.
Ajedrecista.
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On desktop with windows 7 prof, with or without sp1, I got crashes when using version 0.6.0, as a result I use version 0.5.1. However on laptop with windows 8.1, version 0.6.0 is stable.Laskos wrote:Don't use the latest Cutechess for Windows in gauntlets or RR, it's buggy. It works well only in a match of two engines. Use the previous one.pohl4711 wrote:I finished the LS-ratinglist for several reasons. See:
http://ls-ratinglist.beepworld.de
Stefan
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Of course you could also use WinBoard, if you want to do gauntlets, round-robins or Swiss!
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velmarin wrote:Sometimes it is best to rest, and perhaps,
back with improved ideas.
Thank you very much for everything done.
Rest and back with force.
Gracias Stefan.
There will be more testing by me. For sure.
But I see no more need for the LS-ratinglist. Andreas Strangmuellers Bullet-list is very good and bigger than the LS-list.
And the problems with cutechess and Littleblitzer are really not nice.
And I know, that the biggest interest of the community are my Stockfish-Tests. So I will continue testing Stockfish-dev-versions. But with other testing conditions.
I will use LittleBlitzerGuI again, but with draw-by-GUI-decision at 120 moves to avoid the buggy 50move-rule of the LBG. And i will play 1000 games (my 500 LS-opening-position-set) against Houdini, Komodo and Gull. So only 3000 games instead of 10000, but with longer thinking time (3'+500ms per game/engine).
So a testrun of Stockfish should take 3-4 days. On one Quadcore-notebook.
On my other notebook I will play a neverending RoundRobin-Tournament with the 3-5 top engines (that depends on the further development in computerchess) with all 4 cores for one engine and a long (15'+3'') thinking time (and 512MB Hash). Ponder off, no Tablebases, Shredder Classic GUI. And each engine gets a private copy of a neutral 8move-book, which allows the engines to learn and avoid bad opening-moves.
At the moment the tournament started with Stockfish 140423, Houdini 4, Komodo TCECr and Gull 3. It will run until a new official release of one engine (I have to think about Stockfish...).Then the new version will replace the old version and the RR-tournament goes on. I will create a ctosstable with percent-values, not points, to avoid distortions in that crosstable...
I will create a new website for publishing the results of both projects in some weeks...
So the testing will go on.
Sorry for my awful english.
Stay tuned.
Stefan
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Sorry to hear about the crashes Stefan! It was always a lot of fun to watch your matches - I see you are still thinking of continuing other types of tests, that would be great to see .pohl4711 wrote:I finished the LS-ratinglist for several reasons. See:
http://ls-ratinglist.beepworld.de
Stefan
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agreed, saw this linked @ TCEC & thought it was a great idea. real shame but thanks, hope you carry on in some capacity!