Anand vs. Gelfand WCC 2012 started

[gleperlier]

A draw to come

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HIARCS 13.2 MP:
19/30 00:00 606 545 1 175 474 0,00 Re8-e2 d6-d7 Rd2-b2+ Kb1-c1 Rb2xa2 Kc1-b1 Ra2-b2+ Kb1-c1 Rb2-a2
20/44 00:16 18 397 563 1 082 306 0,00 Re8-e2 d6-d7 Rd2-b2+ Kb1-c1 Rb2xa2 Kc1-b1 Ra2-b2+ Kb1-c1 Rb2-a2

[JuLieN]

They were in a good day: they played 9 more moves than yesterday until they agreed for a draw

[gleperlier]

A draw agreed

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HIARCS 13.2 MP:
21/32 00:00 567 843 1 069 384 0,00 Kc1-b1 Ra2-b2+ Kb1-c1 Rb2-a2

[Houdini]

[Event "World Chess Championship"]
[Site "Moscow"]
[Date "2012.05.14"]
[Round "3"]
[White "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Black "Gelfand, Boris"]
[ECO "D70"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. f3 d5 4. cxd5 Nxd5 5. e4 Nb6 6. Nc3
Bg7 7. Be3 O-O 8. Qd2 e5 9. d5 c6 10. h4 cxd5 11. exd5 N8d7
12. h5 Nf6 13. hxg6 fxg6 14. O-O-O Bd7 15. Kb1 Rc8 16. Ka1
e4 17. Bd4 Na4 18. Nge2 Qa5 19. Nxe4 Qxd2 20. Nxf6+ Rxf6
21. Rxd2 Rf5 22. Bxg7 Kxg7 23. d6 Rfc5 24. Rd1 a5 25. Rh4
Rc2 26. b3 Nb2 27. Rb1 Nd3 28. Nd4 Rd2 29. Bxd3 Rxd3
30. Re1 Rd2 31. Kb1 Bf5+ 32. Nxf5+ gxf5 33. Re7+ Kg6
34. Rc7 Re8 35. Rh1 Ree2 36. d7 Rb2+ 37. Kc1 Rxa2 1/2-1/2

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[Houdini]

They were in a good day: they played 9 more moves than yesterday until they agreed for a draw

You don't do justice to the quality of this game.
It really was an interesting fight.

[bupalo]

i read a time ago Anand is not so good in rook endings

[gleperlier]

They were in a good day: they played 9 more moves than yesterday until they agreed for a draw

You don't do justice to the quality of this game.
It really was an interesting fight.

Agree with Robert

[JuLieN]

They were in a good day: they played 9 more moves than yesterday until they agreed for a draw

You don't do justice to the quality of this game.
It really was an interesting fight.

You're right, they play very high level chess. But we're not here to watch two engines-like players trying to play the scientifically best moves, we're here to see them fight for the world championship title. And for that, you have to take risks. Players like Kasparov, Spassky, Alekhine, Tal and many others were able to CHOSE to play a move objectively weaker but that gave them a chance to destabilize their opponent and increase the chances to push their opponent toward a mistake, at the cost of slightly decreasing their chances of drawing if the opponent kept being accurate.

That's why I personally feel disappointed: this is not a world chess championship until now, it's two technicians emulating engines.

[gleperlier]

You're right, they play very high level chess. But we're not here to watch two engines-like players trying to play the scientifically best moves, we're here to see them fight for the world championship title. And for that, you have to take risks. Players like Kasparov, Spassky, Alekhine, Tal and many others were able to CHOSE to play a move objectively weaker but that gave them a chance to destabilize their opponent and increase the chances to push their opponent toward a mistake, at the cost of slightly decreasing their chances of drawing if the opponent kept being accurate.

That's why I personally feel disappointed: this is not a world chess championship until now, it's two technicians emulating engines.

Julien, don't you think Gelfand played this more unpredictable play ?

Gabriel

[JuLieN]

You're right, they play very high level chess. But we're not here to watch two engines-like players trying to play the scientifically best moves, we're here to see them fight for the world championship title. And for that, you have to take risks. Players like Kasparov, Spassky, Alekhine, Tal and many others were able to CHOSE to play a move objectively weaker but that gave them a chance to destabilize their opponent and increase the chances to push their opponent toward a mistake, at the cost of slightly decreasing their chances of drawing if the opponent kept being accurate.

That's why I personally feel disappointed: this is not a world chess championship until now, it's two technicians emulating engines.

Julien, don't you think Gelfand played this more unpredictable play ?

Gabriel

That's right, he is a little bit more daring than Anand, but he doesn't take real risks. It really looks like a home-preparation battle and it's not very exciting. I remember beautiful games by Kasparov against Karpov where he played moves not because they were the strongest or more logical moves but because he had a plan he was following, and sometimes he even had aesthetic considerations throughout the whole game. I miss those K-K matches, and since Kasparov retired the chess scene lost a lot of excitement. I hope Carlsen will be able to put some fire back on the top...

I have a K-K game in mind, right now. Give me 10-15mn to find it...