ICGA response to ChessBase 4-part article

[AdminX]

Has Rajlich even responded to any of this on any of the forums?
Rather then let the Rybka Party Faithful(Moderators,friends,,Aunts and Uncles ..long term posters,,etcetc) speak for him.. you would think by now..certainly now that Playchess has taken up the issue..he would speak out and try to defend himself or dispute the ICGA decision
if not..IMHO his total silence on the forums speaks volumes
either he cant defend himself or he simply could care less
im guessing its probably both
i cant imagine any other programmer remaining silent for so long..
im sorry it's way past due that he himself speak out
Muted Regards
Steve

Steve,

The big question is, provided Vas will speak right now, would that be of any help? Or will he be teared down into pieces ?

Bottom line, will he receive a listening ear ?

There has been a 5-6 year anti-Rybka campaign especially here at this forum and that has left its traces in the minds of many.

He has two very favorable platforms in which to speak up Ed
His own forum and now Playchess
you know as well as i do that you would have spoken up if you were accused in this way
sorry his silence is indefensible ..certainly now that the issue has gone viral on Playchess
Regards
Steve

Vas is taken your questions right now at RF.

Where is the link where Vas is answering / taking questions?

[Rebel]

That is very welcome news
Perhaps the issue can now be advanced forward by the actual Programmer involved instead of fan clubs and other third parties
Best Regards
Steve

Yep.

Bob, Zach, Watkins, anybody can ask now.

We smoked him out

[Rebel]

Has Rajlich even responded to any of this on any of the forums?
Rather then let the Rybka Party Faithful(Moderators,friends,,Aunts and Uncles ..long term posters,,etcetc) speak for him.. you would think by now..certainly now that Playchess has taken up the issue..he would speak out and try to defend himself or dispute the ICGA decision
if not..IMHO his total silence on the forums speaks volumes
either he cant defend himself or he simply could care less
im guessing its probably both
i cant imagine any other programmer remaining silent for so long..
im sorry it's way past due that he himself speak out
Muted Regards
Steve

Steve,

The big question is, provided Vas will speak right now, would that be of any help? Or will he be teared down into pieces ?

Bottom line, will he receive a listening ear ?

There has been a 5-6 year anti-Rybka campaign especially here at this forum and that has left its traces in the minds of many.

He has two very favorable platforms in which to speak up Ed
His own forum and now Playchess
you know as well as i do that you would have spoken up if you were accused in this way
sorry his silence is indefensible ..certainly now that the issue has gone viral on Playchess
Regards
Steve

Vas is taken your questions right now at RF.

Where is the link where Vas is answering / taking questions?

http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforu ... ?tid=23957

[natasha]

Has Rajlich even responded to any of this on any of the forums?
Rather then let the Rybka Party Faithful(Moderators,friends,,Aunts and Uncles ..long term posters,,etcetc) speak for him.. you would think by now..certainly now that Playchess has taken up the issue..he would speak out and try to defend himself or dispute the ICGA decision
if not..IMHO his total silence on the forums speaks volumes
either he cant defend himself or he simply could care less
im guessing its probably both
i cant imagine any other programmer remaining silent for so long..
im sorry it's way past due that he himself speak out
Muted Regards
Steve

Steve,

The big question is, provided Vas will speak right now, would that be of any help? Or will he be teared down into pieces ?

Bottom line, will he receive a listening ear ?

There has been a 5-6 year anti-Rybka campaign especially here at this forum and that has left its traces in the minds of many.

He has two very favorable platforms in which to speak up Ed
His own forum and now Playchess
you know as well as i do that you would have spoken up if you were accused in this way
sorry his silence is indefensible ..certainly now that the issue has gone viral on Playchess
Regards
Steve

Vas is taken your questions right now at RF.

Where is the link where Vas is answering / taking questions?

http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforu ... ?tid=23957

you mean this crapp


/ A Big Thanks and a Small Update
- - By Vasik Rajlich (Silver) [pl] Date 2012-01-08 15:08
I want to give a really big thanks to Ed Schroder, Soren Riis, Chris Whittington, Nelson Hernandez, Nick Carlin, Jeroen Noomen and Alan Sassler for their superb efforts in defending me against the accusations that I have broken ICGA tournament rules. Soren did a great job detailing the shenanigans pulled during the ICGA's investigation, from stacking the jury to premature public accusations to a comprehensive fabrication of evidence.

I also appreciate the tenacity of Chris Whittington and especially Ed Schroder in digging through the mountains of documents and answering them point by point.

Finally, I greatly appreciate the support that I have received from countless others. This support has been touching and uplifting and I really appreciate it. Thanks guys!

In other news, I'm working on Rybka. Rybka 5 will be ready sometime this year and the remote Rybka renting will be launched sometime after that. We'll make announcements on our web site and in our forum when we have more information. It should be a fun year.

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do not see
an answer to this

Parent - By Loboestepario (****) [us] Date 2012-01-08 16:52
Would you like to provide a technical commentary on Mark Watkins' response to the 4-part article published by Chessbase?
http://harveywilliamson.com/ICGA/Riis3.pdf

[bob]

If you are calling Riis' article "garbage" then we actually agree on something.

garbage is generally the bi product of usefully things


so we cannot agree with you

Point taken, so I retract my agreement.

[bob]

Has Rajlich even responded to any of this on any of the forums?
Rather then let the Rybka Party Faithful(Moderators,friends,,Aunts and Uncles ..long term posters,,etcetc) speak for him.. you would think by now..certainly now that Playchess has taken up the issue..he would speak out and try to defend himself or dispute the ICGA decision
if not..IMHO his total silence on the forums speaks volumes
either he cant defend himself or he simply could care less
im guessing its probably both
i cant imagine any other programmer remaining silent for so long..
im sorry it's way past due that he himself speak out
Muted Regards
Steve

Steve,

The big question is, provided Vas will speak right now, would that be of any help? Or will he be teared down into pieces ?

Bottom line, will he receive a listening ear ?

There has been a 5-6 year anti-Rybka campaign especially here at this forum and that has left its traces in the minds of many.

He has two very favorable platforms in which to speak up Ed
His own forum and now Playchess
you know as well as i do that you would have spoken up if you were accused in this way
sorry his silence is indefensible ..certainly now that the issue has gone viral on Playchess
Regards
Steve

Vas is taken your questions right now at RF.

Where is the link where Vas is answering / taking questions?

http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforu ... ?tid=23957

you mean this crapp


/ A Big Thanks and a Small Update
- - By Vasik Rajlich (Silver) [pl] Date 2012-01-08 15:08
I want to give a really big thanks to Ed Schroder, Soren Riis, Chris Whittington, Nelson Hernandez, Nick Carlin, Jeroen Noomen and Alan Sassler for their superb efforts in defending me against the accusations that I have broken ICGA tournament rules. Soren did a great job detailing the shenanigans pulled during the ICGA's investigation, from stacking the jury to premature public accusations to a comprehensive fabrication of evidence.

I also appreciate the tenacity of Chris Whittington and especially Ed Schroder in digging through the mountains of documents and answering them point by point.

Finally, I greatly appreciate the support that I have received from countless others. This support has been touching and uplifting and I really appreciate it. Thanks guys!

In other news, I'm working on Rybka. Rybka 5 will be ready sometime this year and the remote Rybka renting will be launched sometime after that. We'll make announcements on our web site and in our forum when we have more information. It should be a fun year.

@@
do not see
an answer to this

Parent - By Loboestepario (****) [us] Date 2012-01-08 16:52
Would you like to provide a technical commentary on Mark Watkins' response to the 4-part article published by Chessbase?
http://harveywilliamson.com/ICGA/Riis3.pdf

Well, he DOES seem to be taking questions. Haven't seen any ANSWERS yet. maybe he will surprise?

[dj]

First, an introduction letter from David:

Subject: The ICGA's rebuttal to Soren Riis's article on Chessbase.com re
the Rybka scandal


This week Dr Soren Riis posted a four part article on Chessbase.com in a
somewhat belated attempt to defend Vasik Rajlich. Regular readers will
recall that Rajlich's actions led the International Computer Games
Association (ICGA) to find him guilty of breaking a crucial tournament rule,
as a result of which the chess program Rybka was stripped of its World
Computer Chess Champion titles and Rajlich was banned for life from ICGA
events.



Dr Riis gave his article a title to suggest that a miscarriage of justice
has taken place. The ICGA now responds with two rebuttal articles, one by
myself (as President of the ICGA) concerning some of the legalistic points
raised by Riis's article, and a robust detailed and thorough technical
rebuttal by Mark Watkins.


Everyone interested in the Rybka scandal should read both of these
rebuttals and then decide for themselves who and what they believe - Dr Riis
or the ICGA's investigation report.


Dr David Levy
President - ICGA

Here are two links, to read David's direct analysis, click the following link:
http://www.harveywilliamson.com/ICGA/DL ... th2012.doc

To read Mark's point-by-point evisceration of Soren Riis' article, click the following link:
http://harveywilliamson.com/ICGA/Riis3.pdf

Since there was no technical content, I removed the other thread to avoid confusion. Future comments should go here, this one will stick around.

When members sought to post either the pro-Rajlich views of Søren Riis or neutral comments on the issue then they were all shunted off to the invisibility (to non-members) of the Engine Forum. Yet when the Grand Inquisitor himself initiates yet another unending spew of anti-Rajlich posts then the thread is put - and remains - on the main CCC forum.

Is there any reason for this - other than the one that is obvious to all of us?

[Rolf]

Yet when the Grand Inquisitor himself initiates yet another unending spew of anti-Rajlich posts then the thread is put - and remains - on the main CCC forum.

Is there any reason for this - other than the one that is obvious to all of us?

Love it. Miss you. All the best, DJ!

[dj]

Yet when the Grand Inquisitor himself initiates yet another unending spew of anti-Rajlich posts then the thread is put - and remains - on the main CCC forum.

Is there any reason for this - other than the one that is obvious to all of us?

Love it. Miss you. All the best, DJ!

Belated new year greetings to you, Rolf.

[natasha]

If you are calling Riis' article "garbage" then we actually agree on something.

garbage is generally the bi product of usefully things


so we cannot agree with you

Point taken, so I retract my agreement.

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