Christopher Conkie wrote:
I doubt it will play Rfd1 if we play a5. I could be wrong but I do doubt it highly. If (and it is a big if) we got Rfd1 then a4 straight away.
Most likely is that we get Bc5 however.
Christopher
So no Bd3 no Rfd1, why are we having so much trouble against this patzer?
No one is listening?
Just a guess.....
Look at Graham. Even when I tell him that after Rdf1 (in the unlikely event it plays Rfd1) then we play a4.......he insists on giving lines as a refutation that do not include a4.
The point of a5 is to play a4. See Miguel's post. It's not rocket science. We just should follow the theme through.
After a5 Rfd1 a4......we probably get Bd3 but it's too late then for Bd3. The queenside pressure is already on.
Here is the full line.
a5 Rfd1 a4 Bd3 g6 Qg4 Ra5.......
After that all it has is Qb4 or Bh6 (which if it plays Bh6 is happy days for us). Bg7 and Qa8 spring to mind.
Christopher Conkie wrote:
I doubt it will play Rfd1 if we play a5. I could be wrong but I do doubt it highly. If (and it is a big if) we got Rfd1 then a4 straight away.
Most likely is that we get Bc5 however.
Christopher
15......a5; 16.Rfd1, a4; 17.Bc5 could still be troublesome if you look further at it.
17. Bc5 gets 17.......Ra5!! and we have equalised (or are even in front).
Zach Wegner wrote:Also, Steve, would it be too much trouble to edit the original post with the current position after each move? As each move is taking up at least a few pages for voting, it's sometimes a pain to have to wade through it all.
Sure Zach
original post edited to include current position
Even More Work Regards
Steve
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Christopher Conkie wrote:
I doubt it will play Rfd1 if we play a5. I could be wrong but I do doubt it highly. If (and it is a big if) we got Rfd1 then a4 straight away.
Most likely is that we get Bc5 however.
Christopher
15......a5; 16.Rfd1, a4; 17.Bc5 could still be troublesome if you look further at it.
17. Bc5 gets 17.......Ra5!! and we have equalised (or are even in front).
Christopher
Okay - looking now at the obvious Ra5. You could well be right!
Christopher Conkie wrote:
I doubt it will play Rfd1 if we play a5. I could be wrong but I do doubt it highly. If (and it is a big if) we got Rfd1 then a4 straight away.
Most likely is that we get Bc5 however.
Christopher
15......a5; 16.Rfd1, a4; 17.Bc5 could still be troublesome if you look further at it.
17. Bc5 gets 17.......Ra5!! and we have equalised (or are even in front).
Christopher
I don't have a board in front of me, but here is what I had on the ...a5 and then ....a4 idea (boy, its getting to be a pain to scroll back in the thread to quote myself):
15...a5 16. Bd3 g6 17. Qg4 and I am not sure what to do for black here. 17...a4 is met with 18 b4, but I don't see much better.
If memory serves, the b pawn looked pretty annoying in this position (after axb axb). If Chris and folks can find a way to get ....a5, ....a4 to work without some preliminary work I am all for it. I couldn't find it.
Christopher Conkie wrote:
I doubt it will play Rfd1 if we play a5. I could be wrong but I do doubt it highly. If (and it is a big if) we got Rfd1 then a4 straight away.
Most likely is that we get Bc5 however.
Christopher
15......a5; 16.Rfd1, a4; 17.Bc5 could still be troublesome if you look further at it.
17. Bc5 gets 17.......Ra5!! and we have equalised (or are even in front).
Christopher
Okay - looking now at the obvious Ra5. You could well be right!
You're correct. White can't play Bc5 in that position because of Ra5. Let me see what else White may have.
Christopher Conkie wrote:
I doubt it will play Rfd1 if we play a5. I could be wrong but I do doubt it highly. If (and it is a big if) we got Rfd1 then a4 straight away.
Most likely is that we get Bc5 however.
Christopher
15......a5; 16.Rfd1, a4; 17.Bc5 could still be troublesome if you look further at it.
17. Bc5 gets 17.......Ra5!! and we have equalised (or are even in front).
Christopher
I don't have a board in front of me, but here is what I had on the ...a5 and then ....a4 idea (boy, its getting to be a pain to scroll back in the thread to quote myself):
15...a5 16. Bd3 g6 17. Qg4 and I am not sure what to do for black here. 17...a4 is met with 18 b4, but I don't see much better.
If memory serves, the b pawn looked pretty annoying in this position (after axb axb). If Chris and folks can find a way to get ....a5, ....a4 to work without some preliminary work I am all for it. I couldn't find it.
