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Steve B

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Alainza wrote:
Steve B wrote:geez
with all of these Strelka-Rybka clone threads.. its hard work keeping my "testing" thread on the first page

:P

Diligent Regards
Steve
may be Ron Nelson should hire Strelka's author to make a Mach like program for the Phantom ?

Helping keeping this thread on top regards,
Alain
8-)

a good reply combining the recent Strelka clone wars threads and the FAR FAR more important Phantom Force threads

Regards From The Bright Side Of The Force
Steve
Terry McCracken

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Let's move this back to the top.

Too much S&R Regards,
Terry
Steve B

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Terry McCracken wrote:Let's move this back to the top.

Too much S&R Regards,
Terry
:lol: Regards
Steve
Steve B

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The Mephisto Academy is one of only four programs that were released in the very special smaller wooden housing boards

different then the other three(Monte Carlo,MC IV and MC IV LE) by virtue of the fact that the Academy was designed to accept different modules while the others were not and so the Academy program itself is contained in a small module
rated 1950(SS) and programmed by Ed Schroder ,it Sadly turned out to be the only module ever released for the board:

here you can see the little module in the upper right hand corner of the photo:

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/cpaa2@sbcgl ... 806747/120

it was high time to test one of the many Fidelity computers that were released with the best selling Par Excellence Program rated 1835(SS)
it being the height of the lazy, crazy ,hazy dog days of mid summer, i was feeling a bit lazy, and not in the mood to analyze the game and to make comments at crucial parts of the game as in all of the other games in this thread
so i decided to pit the Academy against the Fidelity Chesster Challenger which has the Par program and also a rather extensive voice feature and vocabulary and no problem at all wanting to make comments as the game proceeds(most of the time distracting to the human player)

so for this post i will show the game position at various times throughout the game but the comments will be those of Chesster in BOLD TYPE under each diagram

as Chesster is rated more then 100 Elo less then the Academy i gave him the White pieces
Time Control was 30sec per move /avg.
in the Game Chesster was out of book first at move 6
the Academy typically reached 5-6 ply

Take it Away Chesster..

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/cpaa2@sbcgl ... 805258/148

HI!
IM CHESSTER..
HOW ABOUT A NICE GAME OF CHESS??

:P

[White "Chesster Challenger"]
[Black "Mephisto Academy"]
[Result "0-1*"]

1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nc3 Qa5 4.d4 Nf6 5.Nf3 Bg4 6.Bb5+ c6 7.Bd3 Bxf3
8.Qxf3 Qb4 9.Qh3 Nbd7 10.O-O Qxd4 11.Be3 Qg4 12.Qxg4 Nxg4 13.Bg5 h6
14.Bd2 e5 15.Ne2 Bd6 16.Bf5 Ngf6

[d] r3k2r/pp1n1pp1/2pb1n1p/4pB2/8/8/PPPBNPPP/R4RK1 w kq - 0 17

COME ON..YOU LOVE ME DONT YOU??


17.Rad1 Ke7 18.Be3 Nd5 19.c4 Nxe3
20.fxe3 Nb6

[d] r6r/pp2kpp1/1npb3p/4pB2/2P5/4P3/PP2N1PP/3R1RK1 w - - 0 21

IM STILL THINKING

:?

21.b3 Rad8 22.a4

[d] 3r3r/pp2kpp1/1npb3p/4pB2/P1P5/1P2P3/4N1PP/3R1RK1 b - a3 0 22


DONT YOU THINK IM GREAT??

:o



22..g6 23.Bc2 Bc5 24.Kf2 f5 25.a5 Nd7 26.h3
Rhf8 27.g3 Bb4 28.Ra1 Nc5 29.Kf3 Rd2 30.Bd1 e4+ 31.Kg2
[d] 3r4/pp2k3/2p3pp/P1n2p2/1bP1p3/1P2P1PP/3rN1K1/R2B1R2 w - - 0 32

NOW IVE GOT YOU!!
:twisted:


32..fd8

[d] 3r4/pp2k3/2p3pp/P1n2p2/1bP1p3/1P2P1PP/3rN1K1/R2B1R2 w - - 0 32


PUT ME ON A HIGHER LEVEL IF YOU ARE GOING TO TAKE SO LONG!
:x



32.Rb1 R8d3
33.Kf2 Bxa5 34.Ra1 Nxb3 35.Bxb3 Rxe2+



[d] 8/pp2k3/2p3pp/b4p2/2P1p3/1B1rP1PP/4rK2/R4R2 w - - 0 36


GIVE ME YOUR ROOK
8-)

36.Kxe2 Rd2+ 37.Ke1 Ra2+ 38.Kd1 Rxa1+ 39.Ke2 Rxf1 40.Kxf1 b5 41.g4

[d] 8/p3k3/2p3pp/bp3p2/2P1p1P1/1B2P2P/8/5K2 b - - 0 41

AHEM..ARE YOU STILL THERE??
ITS YOUR TURN

:x


41.. fxg4 42.hxg4 h5 43.cxb5 cxb5 44.gxh5
gxh5 45.Bd5 Bb6 46.Ke2 h4 47.Bxe4 a5 48.Kf3 a4 49.Kg4 Kd6 50.Kxh4 b4
51.Kg4 a3

[d] 8/8/1b1k4/8/1p2B1K1/p3P3/8/8 w - - 0 52

HEY! YOUR GETTING GOOD
:shock:

52.Bb1 b3 0-1

FINAL POSITION
[d] 8/8/1b1k4/8/6K1/pp2P3/8/1B6 w - - 0 53


OK YOU WON THIS ONE
I RESIGN

:cry:

Shut Up Already Regards
Steve
Terry McCracken

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Chesster certainly took a beating! Maybe it uses too much power for talkingand not enough for thinking?
:D

I just ran through the moves in my head and chesster had problems right out of book, and it was mercilessly crushed by Academy.

All Talk and No Thought Regards,
Terry :wink:
Steve B

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Terry McCracken wrote:Chesster certainly took a beating! Maybe it uses too much power for talkingand not enough for thinking?
:D

I just ran through the moves in my head and chesster had problems right out of book, and it was mercilessly crushed by Academy.

All Talk and No Thought Regards,
Terry :wink:
yeah the Par Program was a bit of a joke after it received an Official 2100 USCF rating from the USCF Chess Computer Rating Agency(CRA)
after this debacle they changed the rules and the ratings were more reliable after that(although not very many computers were rated afterwards)

Coming Soon To A Thread Near You

Diablo vs. Excel Mach IV Regards
Steve
Terry McCracken

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Post by Terry McCracken »

Steve B wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote:Chesster certainly took a beating! Maybe it uses too much power for talkingand not enough for thinking?
:D

I just ran through the moves in my head and chesster had problems right out of book, and it was mercilessly crushed by Academy.

All Talk and No Thought Regards,
Terry :wink:
yeah the Par Program was a bit of a joke after it received an Official 2100 USCF rating from the USCF Chess Computer Rating Agency(CRA)
after this debacle they changed the rules and the ratings were more reliable after that(although not very many computers were rated afterwards)

Coming Soon To A Thread Near You

Diablo vs. Excel Mach IV Regards
Steve
Yes, we're in complete agreement here. Although wouldn't it be a closer match to pit the Mach III agaisnt the Diablo?

They are in the same class Regards,
Terry
Steve B

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Terry McCracken wrote:
Steve B wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote:Chesster certainly took a beating! Maybe it uses too much power for talkingand not enough for thinking?
:D

I just ran through the moves in my head and chesster had problems right out of book, and it was mercilessly crushed by Academy.

All Talk and No Thought Regards,
Terry :wink:
yeah the Par Program was a bit of a joke after it received an Official 2100 USCF rating from the USCF Chess Computer Rating Agency(CRA)
after this debacle they changed the rules and the ratings were more reliable after that(although not very many computers were rated afterwards)

Coming Soon To A Thread Near You

Diablo vs. Excel Mach IV Regards
Steve
Yes, we're in complete agreement here. Although wouldn't it be a closer match to pit the Mach III agaisnt the Diablo?

They are in the same class Regards,
Terry
yes of course the Mach III is closer to the Diablo/Scorpio

SS:
Mach IV-2076
Diablo-2012
Mach III-1985

As i am always happy to entertain requests
what would be your pleasure for the Mach III Program?

Excel Mach III
Designer Mach III
Elite AG v2?

Lawrence Welk Regards
Steve
Terry McCracken

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Post by Terry McCracken »

Steve B wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote:
Steve B wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote:Chesster certainly took a beating! Maybe it uses too much power for talkingand not enough for thinking?
:D

I just ran through the moves in my head and chesster had problems right out of book, and it was mercilessly crushed by Academy.

All Talk and No Thought Regards,
Terry :wink:
yeah the Par Program was a bit of a joke after it received an Official 2100 USCF rating from the USCF Chess Computer Rating Agency(CRA)
after this debacle they changed the rules and the ratings were more reliable after that(although not very many computers were rated afterwards)

Coming Soon To A Thread Near You

Diablo vs. Excel Mach IV Regards
Steve
Yes, we're in complete agreement here. Although wouldn't it be a closer match to pit the Mach III agaisnt the Diablo?

They are in the same class Regards,
Terry
yes of course the Mach III is closer to the Diablo/Scorpio

SS:
Mach IV-2076
Diablo-2012
Mach III-1985

As i am always happy to entertain requests
what would be your pleasure for the Mach III Program?

Excel Mach III
Designer Mach III
Elite AG v2?

Lawrence Welk Regards
Steve
The Excel Mach III is too twitchy, the Designer or maybe the slightly better AG v 2, as I believe it has more ram than the Designer for hash tables. Although its learning feature is virtually useless. Maybe we should just go with wood vs wood, the AG v 2 vs the Diablo...

Hate Lawrence Welk Regards...and hope he blows bubbles in H*** :twisted:

Terry

P.S. My sister was friends with his niece, and she hated her uncle! :shock: :P
Steve B

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Terry McCracken wrote:

Maybe we should just go with wood vs wood, the AG v 2 vs the Diablo...

Wood vs Wood it will be
will have to wait a few weeks though
the V2 is in my other place and i am due to go there at the end of this month


Terry McCracken wrote:


Hate Lawrence Welk Regards...and hope he blows bubbles in H*** :twisted:

Terry

P.S. My sister was friends with his niece, and she hated her uncle! :shock: :P

:P
truth be told
i didnt think you would even know who he was
Old Timers Regards
Steve